RuneScape Forum Archive | Wilderness and Free Trade Vote

Jmbi

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@2 Kool
Why would you be opposed to wildy when you dont HAVE to enter it. Entering the wildy is a CHOICE, you wont be forced.

30-Dec-2010 13:53:45

Nicky Zhang

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I've already voted NO base on one factor. Jagex, ask yourself this question before trying to bring back something you removed yourself. How easy do we want to make Runescape? Free-Trade allows for bots to thrive again, as well as Gold Sellers. You've probably seen in w84 Living Caverns that modern bots are nearly undetectable by your mechanics.
As of the currant trade status, we as players train hard and utilize as much of the activities in the game as possible to train our skills in order to achieve our desired skill level/cape. I personally have 91 Herblore and only about 23M in gold to spare if I wish to train it. Now think back to before the trade limit, less than $100 would buy me enough RS gold to achieve 99 Herblore before this year is over. You incorporated items such as Overload potions and whatnot; claiming to reward people for their efforts in training a skill. With free-trade reinstated, anyone who wish to blow real live cash can achieve in two days the same goal the rest of us maybe worked forever for. (Picture 80% of RS players spamming Overloads at boss monsters; see the problem?)
Now I don't mean this only applies to buying skills, but to item manipulation as well. Imagine a RS world with current merchant clans and Free-Trade altogether...65M for a burnt Lobster anyone?
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As for the Wilderness, say no more. Possibly a great idea, but only implement it into selected PvP worlds. As I've read in a couple of posts, Clue Scrolls and Luring are the main problems; although with the wilderness ditch, only a really "young" player can get lured now.
As for Clue Scrolls, I'll randomly throw some statistics based on my personal history. These numbers will be from 10 Level 3 Clue Scrolls.
Old Wilderness(PKers Only)- 5/10 complete
Now(Revenants Only)- 10/10 complete
Future(PKers + Revenants)- See where I'm going?
Continue...

30-Dec-2010 13:55:59

Nicky Zhang

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The primary problem with Clue Scrolls and an open wilderness is the fact that Level 3 Clues have already been figured out. Most experienced players already know locations of Clue sites. An open wilderness will give them the freedom to hunt Clue Hunters to their content. Whether it's for wealth or simply for joy of being a jerk, this will cause players to despise the new game mechanics.
Moreover, the current drop table for PvP action is in my opinion quite fair. It ensures people get drops for kills and prevents any attempt at a Kill-Trade. If you bring back the old Wilderness, would that be bringing back Kill-Trades and Real World Trading as well?
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Suggestion:
Trading:
Allow an even higher, possible Millions of GP at a time, of trade limit for people who've been friends for years. I've seen many situations where a person takes a break from RS then decides to return to playing and haven't the money to get started again. In this manner, friends can have more freedom in exchanging items with each other, and you can still keep an eye on Real World Trading. I doubt a bot can add a customer for years at a time just to sell $10 worth of RS gold.
Wilderness:
Quick and simple...use the current PvP idea, but without the EP% and only applies to certified PvP worlds. It's practically like the old Wilderness with exception of the drop table. I believe the trophy drops should still be there in place of actual items worn by the deceased. To prevent Real World Trading with this system, there can be a limited table/number of items one can bring to be considered as PKing equipment. It still applies to the more you risk the more you gain rule which helps keep an eye on RWT; although some may still happen under this system.

30-Dec-2010 13:56:07 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2010 14:12:45 by Nicky Zhang

C0P SLAYER

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As a player from 04 and a heavy pker I want to first off say I voted yes for both. I've been reading these post some people have been making against old wild and its kind of been ******* me off. First of all most of these people are not pkers and have no idea how much the game has been ruined for pkers and how many old school friends of mine have quit because of this. Second I want to talk about the people who don't want the wilderness to be dangerous, a couple things come to mind. Firstly, the wilderness is supossed to be a dangerous and challenging place for noobs and players who can't fend for anything but their farming patch. Second the idea of having things like clue scrolls and kbd moved out of the wild is rediculous. Things like that are there to add difficulty to the task, asking to move them out is like asking to be given the answers to a test, wtf, how lazy are you scared noobs? All those things were there before wild was turned lame and we all did just fine before. Lastly, if you can't even man up to enter the wilderness in a video game then you got some serious issues irl, sorry.
@the lord
I hope one day your doing a clue in the wild so I can have the pleasure of pking you and stealing your "hard-earned" pixels

30-Dec-2010 13:58:41

Corporealist

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"Bringing back free trade and the original Wilderness will certainly make this a bigger issue than it is today, though I can pledge that we will never stop trying to combat it."

yes this is in responce to the bots, and rule breakers lolz, i will admit i have played this game wayyy too long but over my years i have never been able to walk around and point out bots like i can today, with pvp to possibly return the bots that use the wildy, all of a sudden, they stop! oh my what a surprise haha

if you need proof there are bots, go to chaos tunnel green drags, just north of ge and find a full world, and quick chat asking str lvls, most of the players responding, happen to be bots...gf getting rid of bot makers, lolz

30-Dec-2010 14:00:35

Yoiola

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Probably I'm one of the few old players that wants things to remain as they are and doesn't want old wildy back and trade limits removed. I started playing in early 2003, so I remember very well how things were before. I like it much better now, not everything is perfect, far from it, but it's still better than it used to be, that's only in my opinion of course.

30-Dec-2010 14:01:07

MegaFrost X

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@JangHyunWoo,
I support your opinion. If you have time to spare, please read my 3 post long opinion on page 666. Let's have Jagex make a win-win solution for everybody, whether people don't support both free trading and old wilderness, or support free trade but oppose old wilderness or vice-versa.
Lets make everybody happy regardless of the outcome.

@Yoiola,
Same goes for me, I have been playing since 2005, when old wilderness and free trade was still there. Now, I feel that what has been changed on the day of 10th December, year 2010 A.D., should not be reverted, as many players like you and me have found ways to cope with trade limits and revenants.

Best Regards,
MegaFrost X

30-Dec-2010 14:01:57 - Last edited on 30-Dec-2010 14:04:20 by MegaFrost X

IzzyNo-Beard

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Most of the people who voted in the petition and actually wanted to vote against stated themselves that they didn't read carefully and that's why they logged in...
People, THAT is why you were scammed.
Get some sleep and look at what you're doing, It's already been said but "If something looks too good to be true, it probably is".
I do agree that we need more votes to make it more clear what we do and don't want back.
For you people who were too lazy to read: Jug-X stated that they improved their anti-botting and are ready for war,
Let's hope that that won't be necessary though,
I would really prefer it if Yews won't get uprooted, Tuna and Swordfishes extinct and rune essence would not be mined to naught.

30-Dec-2010 14:02:52

13034431 XP

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Runescape has lost tons of great players and probably the biggest part of their community since wilderness was removed. Bringing it back won't stop the botters, RTW'ers, or scammers but over 90% of the Runescape community would still rather have Wilderness. Seriously, botters won't and can't be stopped anyways, RWT'ers(whoever wants to pay 100$ for a 99 stat can get a life), chill out. This is a great thing, it revives over thousands of old players and the new players who never had a chance to enjoy Wilderness can now have a chance. This is something that personally brought me back playing again and I am glad Jagex is working on this issue once again because it has been 3 years too late. And for the moron who has yet to figure out why there is a NO option, your basically voting no if you didn't vote yes... The vote is for people who want it, not people who don't.

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