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Sweeet Tears

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Poop7190, I'm afraid I have to agree with Deathwyrm on his point about macroers. Good God man, were you playing before the update? "Macroers are still alive and well and probably stronger due to the GE?" LOL LOL
<wipes tears from eyes> thanks for the laugh, I needed that tonight =) ...apparently you have no clue how bad it was before the update. Yes I sorely missed the free trading, but I was SO relieved when they implemented the update and brought in the GE. Bots today are pretty much non existent and I mean compared to what they were, I'm not saying they don't exist in the game anymore. Back before the update, I had to stop going for 99 woodcutting due to the fact that there were 20 bots to every SINGLE yew or magic tree in runescape. Real players had to share and share they did with these bots, parasites, to their detriment and it wasn't just trees it was EVERYTHING, all the resources. I do NOT want to see that happen again, it almost ruined the game, but apparently Jagex has found ways to detect these bots more readily now and SO, with the promise of that, and only because of that, I have to admit I did vote for the wildy & free trade to return. Oh btw all of us were the victims of the bots we were not victims of the measures used to stop them. The update was the only thing jagex could do at the time to stop the madness and I understood that then and I still do. I'm just glad that they claim they can now get a handle on the botters and that the problem won't re occur to the same extent as in the past.

29-Dec-2010 05:17:31

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Real Poop

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@Sweet Tears
You simply dont understand. That comment was probably wrong (sorry) however it does not change my main point being, most people who play the game are not bots or scammers so why should we have to be given in such a boring and dry version of PvP and virtually be unable to decide how to deal with our money because some people are annoying. They should be delt with individually rather than the entire community of the game recieving a communal punishment. You say this wasnt a punishment and it was neccaceary could be true but simply isnt. It was neccasery but a punishment none the less.
VOTE YES EVERYONE =O

29-Dec-2010 05:23:57 - Last edited on 29-Dec-2010 05:26:36 by Real Poop

Sweeet Tears

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Poop, cringing at having to type that, the simple fact is, bots and real world trading were ruining the game. Jagex took the steps necessary to end most of it,not all, most.
Obviously *here was no other way or they would have done it.
Should they have let it all continue? What would the game have become if they had done nothing? Horrible for most of us. What you're saying is why punish everyone and I understand that but sometimes, yes, a minority of people can and do ruin things for the majority and ,yes, rules have to be changed or put into place. That is how society works in the real world. In my opinion you should really make your own money anyway. The new rules didn't hurt me, they were a bit inconvenient at times such as when I would have liked to give a friend a million in gold but the update did not ruin the game for me personally and I rather liked the idea of the GE. Way more convenient to sell my items than to have to stand in a bank yelling. As for pvp I never pvp'd anyway, and most people I know don't. This does not mean I can't empathize with you people who played the game for mainly this purpose. I know it ruined the game for you but then, they did bring pvp worlds about anyway. I know it was not the same though. I think there should still be worlds where people like me who don't want to pvp can play and not have to worry about it. But yes, I did vote yes so you should be happy =)

29-Dec-2010 05:35:31

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Real Poop

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You make a very good point both about the topic and my name =p. You are lucky you never got involved in PvP because you would be much more passionate in that case. However I cant get mad because you voted correctly so thanks =).
VOTE YES EVERYONE =O

29-Dec-2010 05:41:38

Fun Addict

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Very good posts to read upon poop sweat n tears

I was never a fan of the PVPing also, pre GE or po*****. I was too noob back then to realize people lured others into the wilds just to take their things. I'm sure this sort of thing will come back, but for those listening to these con artists, I say good luck to them as they will need it if they allow people to take advantage of them all the time.
The fact that GE will still be implemented when (based on votes its not IF this will come back but more when as 90% vote yes for it) free trade / old wildy comes back should help the economy much more I feel in terms of taking merch clans out of the picture. When you have people being able to set their own prices, People will obviously buy for the lowest price. If this is the case, the only way a mercher will take advantage is by trying to find a new way to take advantage...but if this were to happen, it will be completely legit as it wont affect the economy anymore. This way, people will still be able to make as much money as before, yet will make people go back to 1 of runescapes oldest, and in my perspective, greatest traditions. Collecting items for money. I did it when I ran businesses, I will do it again when this update comes out.
I voted yes for it to come back and I cant wait until they make this dream a reality.

29-Dec-2010 06:14:38

Sweeet Tears

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Hellz Sword2, ok, for the record my name is not sweat tears, its sweeet tears

...big difference lol...I get the reference though

I agree, good riddance to merching clans!
Perhaps the "surprises" Jagex talked about regarding the anniversary on Jan. 4th refer to bringing back free trade and the wild? They ask us to throw parties and there will be some surprises, hmmm, maybe they had all this planned out way in advance and are going to spring it on us on the 4th...
wouldn't that be nice

or perhaps just wishful thinking...... ^_^

29-Dec-2010 06:31:59

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Well, I can't help but admit that I was absolutely overjoyed when I heard about a movement to bring back the old Wilderness and free trade. Although I haven't been as active on Runescape lately, I was highly active in the pre-2007 years as I was the leader of a clan that enjoyed the benefits that the old wilderness had to offer. I have very fond memories of gathering my clan together at a meeting spot in Edgeville or Varrock, making sure that we all had our team capes on, and venturing out into the Wilderness to have a risk-filled clan war with another clan.
Although I really appreciate the clan war arena (which eliminated the occasional discrepancy about who won a war or played fairly), the old style of wilderness clan wars incorporated a much better system of risk and gain: if you died, you lost your items, and if you won, you could take the opposing clan's loot. It was simple, and it was a true measure of a clan's strength, as clans that were more economically stable could afford to lose better and more expensive gear. And yes, wars would occasionally be crashed, but that would simply add to the risks of the situation, and a good clan would be prepared for the unknown. However, with this update, clans could have the best of both worlds: the clan war arena will simply be relocated, AND the old-style wilderness would still be available to those who are willing to take the risks.
Concerning RWT, I find it strange that people seem to have a lack of faith in Jagex's ability to deal with the problem. If they were not confident in their ability to deal with the problem, then why would they say so?
I am also strongly among the many who want free trade back. If I was running a clan and wanted to give a member supplies so he or she could come to a war and have fun, then I should not be limited in any way.
Finally, I do not like remembering December 10th, 2007, as the day Runescape died. Bring it back to life. Vote YES! Cain Izrail |

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29-Dec-2010 06:33:16

Phthartic

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Yeah, why on earth wouldn't people believe Jagex's claims?
After multiple claims about how awesome they are at detecting and removing bots a person can pick any time on any world to go to Aubury's shop and trap multiple bots with a cannon in the doorway, report them and then see that they're still playing weeks later. That really inspires confidence in them.
Or how bout these polls? Who wouldn't believe everything the people responsible for them says? Oh look, the phase 2 poll STILL says 90%/8%/2% what a surprise; it's said the same ratios the entire time it's been up. Frankly I don't trust people who couldn't write a script that throws in a couple percent variation in the results occasionally....
Seems quite a few supporters don't trust them either, plenty of them are accusing Jagex of creating a big April fools joke; that they have no intention of reverting and threatening to leave if they don't go through with it.
They don't sound too confident; I'm way more confident that Jagex will do this. I've been confident they're going to do it since about 5 minutes after the first poll came out.

29-Dec-2010 07:52:04

helerskeler

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@Phthartic
-They'd get in trouble for lying, they'd lose a lot of subscribers and possible legal trouble even. This is the real deal. And, it could be an April Fools joke (disregarding what I said) except it's not April...

~Sweet as a lemon

29-Dec-2010 08:56:47

HARDKN0X

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I vote YES, i hope everyone else does as well.

29-Dec-2010 09:19:01

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