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Tatt Two

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i feel too much is left unexplained for players to make a decision. what will become of grand exchange if the trade limit is lifted? what will become of gravestones, bounty hunter, revenants, pvp worlds...etc. if the 'old wild' is brought back?
how can you expect to have a clear idea of what the players want if there is no way to vote against, other than not voting at all? what about the validity of the votes being cast?
1) give more information about the update so we can make a decision
2) ensure for a fair poll by validating the votes and giving players the option to vote 'no'

22-Dec-2010 13:13:28

Alibabah

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In the old wilderness there was a difference between skulled and unskulled players. It was part of tactics as a pker. The first one who attacked got the skull. It was fun.
Some type of player does not exist anymore, like the miner/pker-hybrids that existed in those days. They mined, but when some player was strolling around, then you sized him up and changed your plan for the kill or tried to escape to stay alive. Wilderness was a highrisk place. It was amazing.
Now it's too hard to die in the wilderness and revs aren't challenging enough to fight with.
For the so called strolling around player it was fun too. He might be walking around in search for left over loots, or he might be doing some activity for money. In those days runescape-money was worth more. No merch-clans were causing massive inflation by then. Wilderness-treasure isn't making it worth anymore for a trip up there.
Street sale was also amazing to do. You actualy had to do something to get your items sold. You needed some selling-skills to get the price right.
Now you just buy 10M pieces of a cheap item in G.E., sell it back for 1 gp extra, to make a fast 10M profit.
Back in 2006 I was running a clan (proud to say: a top 100 clan). We had those training tournaments.
The best clanmembers, who gained the most XP were awarded some prices, like 5 sets of full rune for the winner, 4 sets of full rune for number two and so on, paid by the clanleaders. It was real fun to do.
I was just able to hand out the sets to the winner in our last tournament, because 2 days later tradinglimits were set and another week later my clan died out after 3 years of existance, because more than half of the clan quit runescape.
Years later in another clan (in 2009), there had been another trainingtournament. No prize for the winner (due to tradinglimits). The winner had been called member of the month. It's like working for mac-donalds instead.
The fun has gone. Now bring it back, along with the lost players

22-Dec-2010 13:13:31 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2010 13:31:34 by Alibabah

A 9

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dudie81
I really dislike people such as yourself. You dismiss everyone elses view point. The only aspects that would be getting changed would be staking, free trade and wilderness.
I am not being judgmental but from you're account stats, I would hazard a guess you never played before 2007. therefore you have no experience about how free the game used to be. So please voice you're own opinion but try not to force you're opinions onto everyone else.
I for one support the return of free trade etc. But I also believe that there are some issues that would have to be dealt with to make it a much better environment for the players who are yet to experience how free the game was.

22-Dec-2010 13:14:08

Rei Wilder

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@Neo Th3 1 91
the problem is they're spending too much time and money and resources and manhours trying to prevent something they can not stop, they cna be using this time and money to improve the game, and everyone needs to see that and realize that this is why they maybe going this direction.

22-Dec-2010 13:16:04

Merellynne

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Don't you get it people?
This is a complete STUNT.
You cannot vote for "no". Only for "yes"*****;--- very confusing, there stood "Vote Now" so I thought I wanna vote "no" but I wasn't redirected to a page where I could click on "yes" or "no". I instantly voted for "yes" even though I did not want to!
They want to be in the Guinness Book Of Records for Most Online Votes*****;--- money?
Even if every single RS-Account would vote they wouldn't do it*****;--- they now the way it is now is better
Jagex wont return the wilderness whatever we do. Jagex mods aren't stupid, this is just the way they can break a record because they know it will lead to tons of votes. There are 1M votes already.
Everybody, don't worry, they wont do it.

22-Dec-2010 13:16:09 - Last edited on 22-Dec-2010 13:16:52 by Merellynne

Firedog N
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I'm personally divided on whether to vote.
I was never much of PVPer, although I did love free trade, but know why it was removed and understand that at the time it was the best thing to do.
And so I would love to see it back.
But,
I can just see too many problems being created by this, RWT and such. But if JaGex really can combat this effectively, then sure, I say why not bring it back, it probably would improve the server, IF problems are not created.
FYI, I haven't yet voted.

22-Dec-2010 13:16:42

Munkle
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for people who use programming in their business every day, not coming up with a better designed Vote page, where you need to log in to vote, not just enter the first 100 names you see on highscores pages.. I kinda think, shame on you Jagex for being so unprofessional.
If this was a legitimate voting system in real life, it would be completely abandoned and void, as it's wide open to corruption.
Absolute sham!
a proper "log in to vote" and the option to vote yes or no, and to be able to seperate the 2 things being voted for....
Seriously, I had to vote for something recently in real life - something small - but every measure was taken to ensure it was "one person one vote".
If action is taken by Jagex because of this farcical Poll/petition/vote set-up, then I get the impression that the company is being run by immature children, rather than professional adults.

22-Dec-2010 13:18:09

GRlFFY

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What if members are traveling the game worlds and writing down other member's names, and then they are entering these names into the voting system. Does Jagex have protection from only allowing one vote at a single computer? If not, this may be exactly what is happening but I cannot be positive.

22-Dec-2010 13:20:24

Scouter411

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"You cannot vote for "no". Only for "yes"*****;--- very confusing, there stood "Vote Now" so I thought I wanna vote "no" but I wasn't redirected to a page where I could click on "yes" or "no". I instantly voted for "yes" even though I did not want to!"
This is EXACTLY my point.
But Merellynne raises other intriging points too.

22-Dec-2010 13:20:36

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