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Agent B MiB,
If you foolishly tried to battle the merchants all that time, I can understand why they were rude to you. It would be nice if everyone playing RS were grown up and mature. But that's not the case. And rudeness is not limited to merchants.
Yes, the GE takes away the need for personal interaction to do merchanting, and therefore removes most of the rudeness from merchanting.
Though I love the GE, I'm not convinced that it's better socially to have most trades going through an impersonal game mechanism. In fact, the general effect of many of the changes of January '08 was to make the game more impersonal, with less player interaction.
Yes, that cut down on the rudeness. But it also cut down on the overall social interactions of the game.
One of the things I'm looking forward to with the return of free trade is the return of more personal, player-to-player interaction. It will never be as it was before the GE. But at least players *can* wheel and deal with each other in an atmosphere of free trade.
Now as for the idea that GE merchants don't affect anyone, that's simply not true*
*** merchants make the RS economy work better for everyone who uses the GE, and by its ripple effects, for everyone in RS.
Without GE merchants, it would be twice as hard to buy and sell the items players want to buy and sell as it is now.
Once the trade restrictions are removed**** merchants will be even more critical in stabilizing prices on the GE and keeping the economy flowing along smoothly.
In fact**** merchants will be precisely the players that prevent the buyout and other scamming clans from easily doing their dirty business on the GE after free trade returns.
If you foolishly tried to battle the merchants all that time, I can understand why they were rude to you. It would be nice if everyone playing RS were grown up and mature. But that's not the case. And rudeness is not limited to merchants.
Yes, the GE takes away the need for personal interaction to do merchanting, and therefore removes most of the rudeness from merchanting.
Though I love the GE, I'm not convinced that it's better socially to have most trades going through an impersonal game mechanism. In fact, the general effect of many of the changes of January '08 was to make the game more impersonal, with less player interaction.
Yes, that cut down on the rudeness. But it also cut down on the overall social interactions of the game.
One of the things I'm looking forward to with the return of free trade is the return of more personal, player-to-player interaction. It will never be as it was before the GE. But at least players *can* wheel and deal with each other in an atmosphere of free trade.
Now as for the idea that GE merchants don't affect anyone, that's simply not true*
*** merchants make the RS economy work better for everyone who uses the GE, and by its ripple effects, for everyone in RS.
Without GE merchants, it would be twice as hard to buy and sell the items players want to buy and sell as it is now.
Once the trade restrictions are removed**** merchants will be even more critical in stabilizing prices on the GE and keeping the economy flowing along smoothly.
In fact**** merchants will be precisely the players that prevent the buyout and other scamming clans from easily doing their dirty business on the GE after free trade returns.
19-Jan-2011 22:07:45
If I weren't so big into freedom, I'd require every RS player to go through a basic economics tutorial as a part of their new account experience. Then maybe we wouldn't have to listen to so much rubbish on the forums.
Hmm . . . I guess that wouldn't work. Most players would just click through all the screens without reading them, and remain just as ignorant of economics as before.
Wouldn't it be a wonderful world if people preferred understanding to ignorance?
Hmm . . . I guess that wouldn't work. Most players would just click through all the screens without reading them, and remain just as ignorant of economics as before.
Wouldn't it be a wonderful world if people preferred understanding to ignorance?
19-Jan-2011 22:09:11 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2011 22:09:53 by Mystic Monad
Phthartic,
I think Jagex was pretty sure before conducting the poll and referendum how they'd turn out.
I think Jagex handled them differently than previous polls because they knew that this change will have a much bigger and more controversial effect on the game than any of those other polls.
I think Jagex wanted to bring free trade and the old wildy back before they ever staged the first (weird) vote.
I think Jagex wanted to bring back free trade and the wildy both because that's what their customers wanted and because it would be better for them economically. (The two are really the same, eh wot?)
I think Jagex had to conduct some sort of a referendum to support a return of free trade and the old wildy in order to satisfy the naysayers that this is what the players want, and not just what Jagex wants.
I think Jagex could have handled the whole voting thing better.
I think that Jagex was surprised at the speed and magnitude of the response, and that this massive response put Jagex off-balance and led to much swifter action that Jagex had originally planned.
I think that no matter how Jagex had conducted the voting, the yes votes would have won overwhelmingly for the return of both the old wilderness and free trade.
I think that if Jagex had handled the voting better, the only real difference would be perhaps 10% fewer people complaining about it.
AND, I think that restoring free trade and the wilderness will make Runescape a better game, despite the necessity of an increased battle against bots and RWT, and a return of some of the old-style player-to-player scamming.
Based on all this, I think that despite the messy way we're getting there, Jagex is doing what's best for the game and what the great majority of its customers want.
So I think that in the end, all the uproar will be worth it for the sake of improving Runescape.
I think Jagex was pretty sure before conducting the poll and referendum how they'd turn out.
I think Jagex handled them differently than previous polls because they knew that this change will have a much bigger and more controversial effect on the game than any of those other polls.
I think Jagex wanted to bring free trade and the old wildy back before they ever staged the first (weird) vote.
I think Jagex wanted to bring back free trade and the wildy both because that's what their customers wanted and because it would be better for them economically. (The two are really the same, eh wot?)
I think Jagex had to conduct some sort of a referendum to support a return of free trade and the old wildy in order to satisfy the naysayers that this is what the players want, and not just what Jagex wants.
I think Jagex could have handled the whole voting thing better.
I think that Jagex was surprised at the speed and magnitude of the response, and that this massive response put Jagex off-balance and led to much swifter action that Jagex had originally planned.
I think that no matter how Jagex had conducted the voting, the yes votes would have won overwhelmingly for the return of both the old wilderness and free trade.
I think that if Jagex had handled the voting better, the only real difference would be perhaps 10% fewer people complaining about it.
AND, I think that restoring free trade and the wilderness will make Runescape a better game, despite the necessity of an increased battle against bots and RWT, and a return of some of the old-style player-to-player scamming.
Based on all this, I think that despite the messy way we're getting there, Jagex is doing what's best for the game and what the great majority of its customers want.
So I think that in the end, all the uproar will be worth it for the sake of improving Runescape.
19-Jan-2011 22:33:44 - Last edited on 19-Jan-2011 23:40:48 by Mystic Monad
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