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Wow, 91% say yes, 7% say no and 2% don't mind either way. That's pretty decisive, lol.
Having seen the Wilderness in what some players might call "all its glory", I have to say I'm against the idea. I got scammed as a young player - and that nearly made me quit the game altogether. I would have quit, if my friends hadn't asked me to stay.
Another thing that's bothering me is that the Grand Exchange stays, but limits go? I have mixed feelings about that. I like the idea of a Grand Exchange without limits, but I definitely want some form of guideline prices to stay in place. Otherwise, how do we know what a normal price for a product is? Maybe increase the upper price limit by 10/20% and decrease the lower price limit by the same, but I'd prefer to keep some semblance of pricing in the GE - just to make it easier and fairer.

10-Jan-2011 18:06:31

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Obviously there are negatives to having the open wilderness and free trade back, but it isn't anything that can be overcome by other means.
Back in 2007 when the wilderness was removed, the majority of players were very upset. I'm sure Jagex sees the error now, but they removed it because of a few players complaining about getting scammed. When looking back on it, those players were the very immature ones, some who may not even have been old enough to play. And yes, we have all been scammed at some point, but the removal of the greatest part of Runescape was extremely reckless. If Jagex would have taken a poll at the time on whether or not to keep the wilderness, the result would have been a landslide vote to keep it, no doubt.
I myself was scammed 6mil in the wilderness about six years ago as a twelve-year-old (below the 13 age limit, like most who got scammed.) I kept my head up, however, and rebuilt my wealth. It was a matter of being mature enough to learn from mistakes.
As far as free trade goes, there was definitely more of a case for removing it, due to RWT. However, I think it should be brought back for sure. I remember starting new accounts at times, often for pking, and being able to count on my friends to assist me in getting a fast start with those new accounts. I *hink that was fair because if you have to start over isolated, it seems to take away from the other things you have achieved on another account.
When the wilderness and free trade were removed, countless numbers of people quit and Runescape lost a lot of its strongest leaders of the community. They were the heart and soul of Runescape, all those original members, and that was the greatest part of the whole game. I firmly believe that if the wilderness and free trade were reinstated, there would be an immense return of the old Runescape community and its leaders.
~Ed87
P.S. - I myself would certainly return, though perhaps on a new pure account. Zezima may even return! ;)

10-Jan-2011 18:20:06

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To your statement regarding free trade.
It's YOUR responsibility to not get scammed and it´s easy to not gettin scammed to!
You just have to be more aware at 14th jan then now.
With the change of limited trade and new wildy they made the game way more easier imo. Since with free trade you gotta have more knowledge on the market instead of now its easycake.
Also old wildy is harder

THX jagex <3 make this happen

10-Jan-2011 18:23:02

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Okay firstly i am very happy to hear that the wilderness will be makeing its return, it made the game dynamic it set it apart from the other games that are out there, althow people do get scamed they lean from it and normally it happens no more than onces and to be fair the players that get scamed are relitivly new they arnt well geared if you get what i mean so thats not a big worry for me how ever the freetrade is gonna be abused even thow i do love to throw around money give it away and help the new players out there are people out there that buy gold and bot it to sell earning a profit from jaxes creation (runescape) there is no way we can ever stop this as long as there is a way round things or a will to do it, it will continue regardless.
all togeather am in favour of this and carnt wait to get back in to the wilderness :) nom! keep up the good work peaces out!
-jamesf321-

10-Jan-2011 18:23:09

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10-Jan-2011 18:06:31
Wow, 91% say yes, 7% say no and 2% don't mind either way. That's pretty decisive, lol.
Having seen the Wilderness in what some players might call "all its glory", I have to say I'm against the idea. I got scammed as a young player - and that nearly made me quit the game altogether. I would have quit, if my friends hadn't asked me to stay.
Another thing that's bothering me is that the Grand Exchange stays, but limits go? I have mixed feelings about that. I like the idea of a Grand Exchange without limits, but I definitely want some form of guideline prices to stay in place. Otherwise, how do we know what a normal price for a product is? Maybe increase the upper price limit by 10/20% and decrease the lower price limit by the same, but I'd prefer to keep some semblance of pricing in the GE - just to make it easier and fairer.
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If you got scammed, good chance it was your own error and you learned. If you almost quit from one scam...well I won't go there.
If you want to know how to know what the normal price is without limits, you can do it the same way I did it for years. Go to the market area, go to the forums, ask your friends, ask a neutral 3rd party (someone who isn't selling it to you or buying it from you), do all of the above. Works great.

10-Jan-2011 18:26:19

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I vote in favor of it!! and if it becomes a big problem we can always get rid of it again right?? i think it would be a good idea to have free trade with only friends aswell, to prevent scamming ofcourse. maybe longterm friends better yet. so incase you actually do get hacked theres a less chance of loosing your stuff. ty! :)

10-Jan-2011 18:36:35 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2011 18:38:38 by [#7XWTPK1CJ]

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OK let me start by saying I am completely for both sides of this update.
As for the trade limit goes I believe that if the trade limit disappears it will greatly improve the economy. If the grand exchange is made more in to an auction house like wow, than players will have the ability to set their own prices, also to sell/buy as many items as they want at a time. I really do think that Runescape has some great aspects like their pvp and skill system, but I also believe that it has some bad aspects like their trade system. I believe that with this update if they are leaning towards a free trade system than we should also convert the g/e to an auction house, and maybe implement mailboxes along with it.
As for the wilderness goes I have no doubt in my mind that anybody will have a real problem with this update. As for scammers go, I think if you make it well aware before they hop over the wilderness ditch that if they die they will lose all of their items, than nobody is going to be lured. I think that you should also *till have a couple worlds that are +1 so that people that don't want to lose a valuable item such as a godsword if they are smited, has the ability to always protect it. Although they will still lose all armour and everything else they are carrying, making each drop still valuable.
Some people are wondering what will happen with the old pvp gear. I believe that you should either make this gear untradeable, making it so that no one can profit off of it as being a rare. The 2nd option is to make it so when you kill someone you have the ability to get 1 piece of bh drop, ranging from a bronzed claw to a vls. I think that this should in some way be entangled with ep and dp still. You should also make it so that if you get a revenge kill or a 2nd kill on someone than you will only recieve their gear and not recieve the one bh drop. This will make it that you can still recieve the bh gear.

~High Briid~

10-Jan-2011 18:38:57 - Last edited on 10-Jan-2011 18:40:55 by [#EOIEM3VUB]

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I would vote no on free trade. Possibly doubling limits may not hurt though. If free trade comes back, so will the bots that we all no and love so much. Not to mention so will cheaters. I'm not ready for level 30 people walking around again bragging about how they have over 100 mil because their friend quit playing. I'm also not ready for level 30 people walking around with a party hat claiming that they saved up the money for it themselves. With that being said I would love the old wildy to return. Get rid of senseless pvp worlds and let the wilderness come back. Drop rates should be set with players the same they're set for monsters. If a player drops a Dragon scimitar when they die there should be a respectable 5 or 10 % chance of you picking it up. This will allow some to cheat but it makes it harder for them to do so. Also, it encourages players to kill people because they would have a decent chance at getting a good drop. I think the problems we're facing without the wildy and free trade can be solved without completely recreating problems that Runescape had when these were available. Lets not go one way or the other, let's try to think on middle ground to make the game funner for us and still not have the same problems we used to. I will have to vote "no" because free trade WILL BE A HUGE PROBLEM AGAIN! Thanks for taking the time to read this.

10-Jan-2011 18:40:17

Akira1st
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I have played rs from the start and I for one did not like when they took Wilderness and Free Trade away.
was always fun when i had to go in Wilderness having to keep my eyes open all times. the npc* that are there now are just not the same at all.
one time when i was just a lvl 35 (could not use dragon items) a lvl 85 come at me, he was useing dragon long sword. well most his hits missed me and i was winning the fight!!! was so funny when he had to run away, i just missed out on getting the last hit and wining his dragon long sword. but this what i miss about Wilderness.
and free trade, at the start i was really upset when they did this, i always got friends in to this game and i would help them out at start like give them gold so they can get of to a good start,but afer that update, could only give 5k and that just do not cut it.
now i do like the GE, save so much time when trying to buy stuff, but i dont like what they have done with GE now, you can only buy like 10k sharks a time and so on.
i for one would like to see Wilderness and Free Trade come back.

10-Jan-2011 18:48:06

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