*sigh*
Well I give up.
Well I give up.
23-Aug-2011 17:03:25
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I've most certainly been keeping up on what the moderators have been saying about this, which is why I've been picking out specific issues I've been finding with their arguments.
(I DEFINITELY appreciate you making those posts though)
I'll drop the bot issue (it's beaten to death), along with finances (as you've answered that and it's clear you can't give the answers people would want yourself because it isn't your job
), and I'll concede that in the long run, the XP bonus isn't THAT much when scaled to the person using it.
As such (hopefully while you're still here) I'd like to narrow down a bit. I'm trying to view things from Jagex's side, but so far I haven't seen much from Jagex to pretend they were us.
As a gamer yourself, how would you feel if a game had never allowed shortcuts for rich players in the real world (you buy gold, you're cheating and get banned) suddenly released an abusable gimmick which allowed them to cough up 5 membership in order to get a 10% xp bonus for a month? I know how a lot of us feel. Bad. It's not about how strong the bonus is, it's more about the fact that a person now really CAN cheat some free xp by making a false account.
If you listed this program abuse as a punishable offense (like they admit in-game or you find something like they're from the same IP and the referred person never plays), we'd feel a lot better because you WOULDN'T be encouraging abuse.
Also, if you could stretch your mind a bit, could you try and think of what reasons a small number of loyalty points or outfits (non-advantage rewards) would be more unbalanced than an XP bonus according to the other Mods? They'd still encourage people to refer but wouldn't impact advantages or gameplay in comparison to other players the way XP does.
I appreciate you taking the time to answer questions though, even if you don't read this batch.
(I DEFINITELY appreciate you making those posts though)
I'll drop the bot issue (it's beaten to death), along with finances (as you've answered that and it's clear you can't give the answers people would want yourself because it isn't your job
), and I'll concede that in the long run, the XP bonus isn't THAT much when scaled to the person using it.
As such (hopefully while you're still here) I'd like to narrow down a bit. I'm trying to view things from Jagex's side, but so far I haven't seen much from Jagex to pretend they were us.
As a gamer yourself, how would you feel if a game had never allowed shortcuts for rich players in the real world (you buy gold, you're cheating and get banned) suddenly released an abusable gimmick which allowed them to cough up 5 membership in order to get a 10% xp bonus for a month? I know how a lot of us feel. Bad. It's not about how strong the bonus is, it's more about the fact that a person now really CAN cheat some free xp by making a false account.
If you listed this program abuse as a punishable offense (like they admit in-game or you find something like they're from the same IP and the referred person never plays), we'd feel a lot better because you WOULDN'T be encouraging abuse.
Also, if you could stretch your mind a bit, could you try and think of what reasons a small number of loyalty points or outfits (non-advantage rewards) would be more unbalanced than an XP bonus according to the other Mods? They'd still encourage people to refer but wouldn't impact advantages or gameplay in comparison to other players the way XP does.
I appreciate you taking the time to answer questions though, even if you don't read this batch.
23-Aug-2011 17:15:00
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