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Rifleavenger
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I'm really not sure why the lunar combat spells are considered so hard to work with, especially since people bend elemental magic all the time to grant defenses and the like.

Vengeance et al: A white and black dream-like aura surrounds the target (which must be described). If wounded by an attack launched from a purposefully hostile source, the dream-like mists take on the form of the attacker and launch an attack identical to the one that inflicted the wound.

The "mirror move" can be evaded or blocked in any way applicable to the original attack. If the spell is charged quickly, it produces a double whose counterattack is harmless.

Disruption Shield: Two suggestions, though I will admit that this one may be irreconcilable with balance.

1. The spell creates a clearly visible disc of force on the forearm of the caster. The disc is effectively a roundshield, and its strength is determined by how long the spell was charged for. To maintain the spell, the caster must continue to gesture and channel magical power, so that hand is not open for casting/wielding a weapon/etc. The shield can be circumvented by breaking it (as a regular shield would) or merely getting around it.

2. Full body shield, but the spell takes extensive time to cast and absorbs only one attack before fading. Unfortunately, this will lead to roflshielding and is probably unacceptable without consent from one's assailant ooc.

Also remember that the lunar spells are taught and practiced by a group who believe in non-violence. It's possible that the spells will fail should the caster hold too much malice in their heart.

In the end, I think that the spells should be treated and allowed like any other. Describing vengeance so that it autohits or etc. is no different than autohitting with fire surge. In both cases the correct response is to ignore the auto-hit, not ban the spell.

24-Oct-2012 01:02:26 - Last edited on 26-Oct-2012 07:12:44 by Rifleavenger

heretic hary

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It mostly has to d with the people who initially used it being idiots and using such as full-blown "invincibility shields". Similar, circumstantial reasons apply to vengeance.

It only takes a small idiot to ruin anything. The "anything" often being what can be fun when done responsibly.


A side concept one of my characters was developing was a certain kind of plate armor having elemental chainmail placed over the gaps between plates, and polypore fungus sewn beneath the plates throughout the gambeson to allow spellcasting while in plate armor.

A further advancement, but only a hypothesis, is to begin building up an immense amount of magic energy in one of the plates, essentially turning it into the "Disruption Shield" described in your first suggested option for it.

Since what you suggest would work, I'll be more than willing to include such into my guide, once I get the updates for Chaos magic ready as well.

24-Oct-2012 22:46:57

Xcursed4life

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What you have called "Slowed down teleportation", Its Offical name given by Jagex is Straddling.

In Gilelinor, Straddling is the ability of a being or object to exist in more than one plane at any given time. Typically, beings capable of straddling are immensely powerful in a magical sense, and as a result very few have ever successfully managed to do so. The term itself is rarely used in Gilelinor. The means by which a being is able to exist in multiple dimensions at once remains unclear. Given that the few beings known to have done so are all vastly different in terms of race, nature, and abilities, it seems likely that there are multiple methods of initiating the state.

Perhaps the most well known example of straddling can be seen in the behavior of the Spirit Beast, an ancient being From the spirit plane. The Spirit Beast, initially confined to a Spirit Realm occupied solely by itself and those it imprisoned there, attempted to enter Gielinor by tearing apart the fabric of reality separating Gielinor from the Spirit Realm. In doing so, it could drain the souls of Gielinor's entire populace, granting it virtually limitless power.

The Balance Elemental, a Guardian appointed to protect the Stone of Jas by the deity Guthix, is known to exist in multiple dimensions at any one time. It is unclear how or why it is capable of doing this, or what dimensions it occupies besides Gielinor.

Solus Dellagar, a powerful mage best-known for his role in the Edgeville Incident in Year 162 of the Fifth Age, is the only known human capable of dimensional straddling. Dellagar, through unknown methods, is capable of slowing the teleportation process to a point that he exists in three places at once: the original point on Gielinor from which he teleported, the point on Gielinor at which he intends to arrive, and in the Abyss that separates the dimensions.

25-Oct-2012 00:01:01 - Last edited on 25-Oct-2012 00:01:51 by Xcursed4life

heretic hary

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I believe I used the phrase "slow teleportation". The same used by Savant to describe the process. Although I like your analysis of it, and that certainly merits attention.

As Savant reveals in the "Wanted!" Quest, the Temple Knights had put some research into it, but cancelled the research as such induced insanity. But if your name is Solus Dellagar, and you're already insane, then that doesn't really stop him from using it.

Otherwise, I'll add that to the list of updates. Now in this order:
-Chaos Magic (entire section) (Ion, Lore Goddess, Me)
-Lunar Magic (Disruption Shield and Vengeance) (Rifleavenger)
-"Slow" Teleportation/Straddling (Xcursed4life)

28-Oct-2012 16:06:34

heretic hary

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ooh, you have me thinking when you speak of the fungals. That'll be worth contemplation and discussion with some of my other elitist friends, and sorry for the late response. Although when you speak of fungals, are you talking about the kind in polypore dungeon, or elsewhere?

Now, for saradomin strike, I'll provide a more descriptive example.
Turn 1: *Fiore raises his Saradomin Staff up towards the sky, beginning an incantation while focusing on a number of runes to prepare for the spell.*
Turn 2: *The runes dissolve into an ethereal form, and begin to swirl around the staff, disappearing as they reach the four-pointed tip. In the sky above, a slight rumbling can be heard as clouds darken.*
Turn 3: *Fiore makes a thrusting motion with the staff towards his opponent. A black storm cloud spews forth from the staff, the clouds in the sky above mimicking the movement. Once the cloud was over where "X" was standing, a bolt of divine lightning would strike down from the cloud above where "*" stood.*

That's an example. An improvement of my past suggestion, really, as a stormcloud projectile would make more sense.

Otherwise, the people I listed above your first post gave good suggestions. But yes, some want to dumb it down. Once again, sorry for the late response.

12-Nov-2012 23:11:18

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