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heretic hary said :
Sand Traven said :
Doc Doctor said :
I Googled langets (I know little of weapon terminology) and came up with those metal strips that run down the length of the weapon. That what you are talking about?


Them's the ones! They protect your spear from the inevitable roflslice every swordsman/axeman/karatechopman will attempt. I caused intense OOC rage when I started using those and people ran out of ideas to counter spear thrusts.

Butthurt. Butthurt everywhere.


I started applying languets to every wooden shaft on a weapon the moment I read about them from a French 14th century poleaxe treatise. As Traven pointed out, the concept of languets is quite mind-blowing to some people. They'd have more of a chance if they didn't assume the wooden shafts were as durable as twigs; finding more records of greatswords than other weapons smashing polearms suggest the wooden shafts weren't so brittle as some claim they are.

Amazingly enough, people still haven't figured out that a sidestep is insufficient footwork to evade a thrust in most cases - though it will continue to be that way as long as the attacker doesn't realize that either.


You mean they'd slash at the shaft ? That's ridiculous. Even without langets, I find it more likely that a polearm would just be knocked away with a notch in the shaft.

Avoiding a stab could be more probable if they sidestepped /while/ knocking the spear aside. But if they do, how then would one counter?
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30-Oct-2014 13:43:21 - Last edited on 30-Oct-2014 13:43:54 by Doc Doctor

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It's an idiot's thing to slash at a wooden object and automatically expect it to break, regardless of whether it actually would or not. Polearms are usually two-handed with pretty solid stopping power.

Thrusting is the most predictable option, so I'll work from there for both sides. In polearms, you're facing someone with the side of your torso, weapon held at either side. If you're insisting on standing up with locked legs, don't bother continuing unless your opponent is doing the same.

In defending footwork, sidestepping and moving forward to put the point behind you is key, so the stab can't just trace to hitting where it was meant to hit. In the event of using your own polearm, push at the inside of their own to make sure their point is aimed to the side of you, and do that footwork. With this, their weapon is past you, and they can't bring around the other side of their polearm for an attack as easily.

In attacking, I usually let my thrusts be bait: if my poleaxe is held to the right of me, I'll thrust at their right side, so they'll be more likely to send my thrust to their right side. Since they're already moving your polearm in a direction that encourages you to bring the other end around, do so. This often has enough power to whack away their own attack, and you can perform your own step and lunge if they try putting more distance between both of you.

I'll leave it at that - I can give more later, or you can try finding that poleaxe treatise on the internet I talked about earlier.

31-Oct-2014 18:32:08

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I seem to remember reading something about catching somebody's spear between a large shield and a sword, and bringing both together sharply while the opponent holds to snap the spear.

Anyways.

Khaine, y u no do bow combat?
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31-Oct-2014 18:37:57

heretic hary

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Kara-Ara said :
I seem to remember reading something about catching somebody's spear between a large shield and a sword, and bringing both together sharply while the opponent holds to snap the spear.

Anyways.

Khaine, y u no do bow combat?


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12-Nov-2014 01:41:28

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Well, let me know if you ever need help with it. I do archery a bit these days, so I could probably help with the physics and all. "A silly ***** is what I'm going to call **** jokes from now on."
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12-Nov-2014 02:16:10

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heretic hary said :
It's an idiot's thing to slash at a wooden object and automatically expect it to break, regardless of whether it actually would or not. Polearms are usually two-handed with pretty solid stopping power.

Thrusting is the most predictable option, so I'll work from there for both sides. In polearms, you're facing someone with the side of your torso, weapon held at either side. If you're insisting on standing up with locked legs, don't bother continuing unless your opponent is doing the same.

In defending footwork, sidestepping and moving forward to put the point behind you is key, so the stab can't just trace to hitting where it was meant to hit. In the event of using your own polearm, push at the inside of their own to make sure their point is aimed to the side of you, and do that footwork. With this, their weapon is past you, and they can't bring around the other side of their polearm for an attack as easily.

In attacking, I usually let my thrusts be bait: if my poleaxe is held to the right of me, I'll thrust at their right side, so they'll be more likely to send my thrust to their right side. Since they're already moving your polearm in a direction that encourages you to bring the other end around, do so. This often has enough power to whack away their own attack, and you can perform your own step and lunge if they try putting more distance between both of you.

I'll leave it at that - I can give more later, or you can try finding that poleaxe treatise on the internet I talked about earlier.


Say, Khaine, what about one-handed battleaxe combat? Got any tips for landing hits?

What I really want to know when it comes to these things is, how to get in a strike. I'm interested in the little tricks that can help you finish somebody off quickly.
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12-Nov-2014 19:15:50 - Last edited on 12-Nov-2014 19:16:48 by Doc Doctor

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^Don't stop swinging. One-handed axes certainly aren't slow, and are viable for taking the nearest limbs before moving to the next target. In defending, static parries will kill your momentum, so those are a no.

Busy, so I'll put more later.

12-Nov-2014 21:32:51

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Once of my characters uses a battleaxe in his left hand and a spear in his right. I haven't fought too many times with him yet, and so I'm still getting used to the new style. I know that it would be ridiculously impractical IRL just dual wielding, let alone using such an odd pair of weapons.

However, this is Gielinor and this sort of thing may have potential. So, any advice/tips/suggestions for using this combination? It is a sparth axe with two sharp prongs on the top (gorgonite battleaxe) and a double headed iklwa headhunting spear with a large leaf blade on the butt (gorgonite spear).
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14-Nov-2014 18:02:16

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Or you could just enlist and practice fencing irl. That's how I base off most of my moves. "The gods envy us. They envy us because we're mortal, because any moment may be our last. Everything is more beautiful because we're doomed. You will never be lovelier than you are now. We will never be here again." - Achilles, Troy

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