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Sand Traven

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Damn but people do a lot of research into this stuff. I remember when I decided one of my characters was gonna be a duellist, I did a quick google search of rapier fencing techniques and that was that. I've forgotten all of it. I don't even remember the names of the weapons; he uses two steels, I think one's an estoc and the other's a tuc. Not entirely sure.

Anyway, nice guide. I'd compliment/berate you on its accuracy but as I say I don't really know anything on the subject, so all I'm gonna do is say kudos. One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

24-Oct-2014 13:46:25

Delemis

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heretic hary said :
Delemis said :
I know this isn't what the thread is about, but have you looked into any unique weapons, such as the Kyzaj or-....The Kyzaj?

Yes.

Sooooooo...

Ummmmmmm...


How did that work out for you? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI

24-Oct-2014 22:23:54 - Last edited on 24-Oct-2014 22:24:27 by Delemis

heretic hary

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Sand Traven said :
Damn but people do a lot of research into this stuff. I remember when I decided one of my characters was gonna be a duellist, I did a quick google search of rapier fencing techniques and that was that. I've forgotten all of it. I don't even remember the names of the weapons; he uses two steels, I think one's an estoc and the other's a tuc. Not entirely sure.

Anyway, nice guide. I'd compliment/berate you on its accuracy but as I say I don't really know anything on the subject, so all I'm gonna do is say kudos.

I actually put several small, deliberate errors in here to see if anyone would catch them. They aren't in absolutely serious places, but only person has found some of them.

Love the rapier for its simplicity to learn: scholarly commentaries on medieval/renaissance fighting treatises frequently note that people could become proficient with them in a week. While it was easy to become proficient in, those who wanted to more wholeheartedly pursue techniques such as the pres de fleur could still take the time to improve themselves to do so.

Delemis said :
heretic hary said :
Delemis said :
I know this isn't what the thread is about, but have you looked into any unique weapons, such as the Kyzaj or-....The Kyzaj?

Yes.

Sooooooo...

Ummmmmmm...


How did that work out for you?

I don't recommend using it, unless you're planning on getting rid of your own character. Larger creatures would be best at making this worthwhile (ogres, trolls, or bigger).

24-Oct-2014 22:43:43

Doc Doctor

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Say Khaine, could you tell me what you know of fighting with a spear? I recently made a character that uses an Iklwa, but regretfully I know little of using one. Any suggested resources as well?
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”

28-Oct-2014 17:13:39 - Last edited on 28-Oct-2014 17:14:25 by Doc Doctor

Sand Traven

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Doc Doctor said :
Say Khaine, could you tell me what you know of fighting with a spear? I recently made a character that uses an Iklwa, but regretfully I know little of using one. Any suggested resources as well?

As an absolute novice on the subject of learned RP fighting (as I've demonstrated), I can start by telling you that langets are your friend. When trying to use spears early on, I often gave up in frustration after the predictable *sidesteps, roflswipes.* Then Rai gave me a tip about langets and the rest of 42 learned about them in short order during the Siege of Traven Varrock. :)

Anyway, I'll let the expert give you a proper lesson. One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

28-Oct-2014 18:49:33

Doc Doctor

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I Googled langets (I know little of weapon terminology) and came up with those metal strips that run down the length of the weapon. That what you are talking about?
“Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”

28-Oct-2014 23:43:34

Sand Traven

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Doc Doctor said :
I Googled langets (I know little of weapon terminology) and came up with those metal strips that run down the length of the weapon. That what you are talking about?

Them's the ones! They protect your spear from the inevitable roflslice every swordsman/axeman/karatechopman will attempt. I caused intense OOC rage when I started using those and people ran out of ideas to counter spear thrusts.

Butthurt. Butthurt everywhere. One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

29-Oct-2014 19:00:00

heretic hary

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Sand Traven said :
Doc Doctor said :
I Googled langets (I know little of weapon terminology) and came up with those metal strips that run down the length of the weapon. That what you are talking about?

Them's the ones! They protect your spear from the inevitable roflslice every swordsman/axeman/karatechopman will attempt. I caused intense OOC rage when I started using those and people ran out of ideas to counter spear thrusts.

Butthurt. Butthurt everywhere.

I started applying languets to every wooden shaft on a weapon the moment I read about them from a French 14th century poleaxe treatise. As Traven pointed out, the concept of languets is quite mind-blowing to some people. They'd have more of a chance if they didn't assume the wooden shafts were as durable as twigs; finding more records of greatswords than other weapons smashing polearms suggest the wooden shafts weren't so brittle as some claim they are.

Amazingly enough, people still haven't figured out that a sidestep is insufficient footwork to evade a thrust in most cases - though it will continue to be that way as long as the attacker doesn't realize that either.

29-Oct-2014 21:50:10 - Last edited on 29-Oct-2014 21:52:17 by heretic hary

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