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jagkilledme
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I'll always run with JaGeX canon and fill in gaps. If you just did that, you wouldn't need standardization at all. Just logic and ideas. But it's contrary to what people do these days. Because timeskips. Because whatever.
As I've outlined, most of what I've proposed is for logic. The reason it's being proposed is people seem to have disagreements on that.
jagkilledme said :
I'm going on 24 in a couple of months and I sign onto the RS forums because RS is a game I enjoy, with lore I find rad, and I find out that people are suggesting an internet police about online pretend time. The idea is so laughable that I'm going back to bed after this farming run. The worst part about it is how people don't realize how ridiculous it is.
People that break rules already punish themselves by way of isolation. No one wants to play with them, because they're being that one guy in the playground that decides that you should say * next while you're playing pretend. No one liked that person as a kid. No one likes them now.
So why have a 'community police', which is an awful lot like telling people to say y next? 'Cause power. Which looks an awful lot like how it is with POCs and that one kid we all hated, and still do.
As 'people' is plural, I'm assuming that's partly directed at me. Like I've said, I don't want there to be a punishment system, unless it is 100% necessary - which I really hope it isn't. As has also already been stated, nobody is advocating isolation either - on the contrary, I'd like for the community to be more close-knit. If you meant the idea of standardization in general, nobody is doing this for power. It's intended as a community initiative, and the community would decide on the issues.
(cont.) "Legacy. What is a legacy? It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see."
Siberys | W42 RP'er |
I'll always run with JaGeX canon and fill in gaps. If you just did that, you wouldn't need standardization at all. Just logic and ideas. But it's contrary to what people do these days. Because timeskips. Because whatever.
As I've outlined, most of what I've proposed is for logic. The reason it's being proposed is people seem to have disagreements on that.
jagkilledme said :
I'm going on 24 in a couple of months and I sign onto the RS forums because RS is a game I enjoy, with lore I find rad, and I find out that people are suggesting an internet police about online pretend time. The idea is so laughable that I'm going back to bed after this farming run. The worst part about it is how people don't realize how ridiculous it is.
People that break rules already punish themselves by way of isolation. No one wants to play with them, because they're being that one guy in the playground that decides that you should say * next while you're playing pretend. No one liked that person as a kid. No one likes them now.
So why have a 'community police', which is an awful lot like telling people to say y next? 'Cause power. Which looks an awful lot like how it is with POCs and that one kid we all hated, and still do.
As 'people' is plural, I'm assuming that's partly directed at me. Like I've said, I don't want there to be a punishment system, unless it is 100% necessary - which I really hope it isn't. As has also already been stated, nobody is advocating isolation either - on the contrary, I'd like for the community to be more close-knit. If you meant the idea of standardization in general, nobody is doing this for power. It's intended as a community initiative, and the community would decide on the issues.
(cont.) "Legacy. What is a legacy? It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see."
Siberys | W42 RP'er |
Praise Madoka.
29-Apr-2016 17:05:30
jagkilledme
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Anything else is inadequate. The entire point between standardizing a system is to ensure quality, ease of operability (making things user-friendly) and ensuring compatibility.
While I agree with the three points in standardization, deeming everything else as inadequate... I have to disagree. Even with the abolishment of POK's, which I will get to, it wouldn't work by itself. You still have all the problems with RP combat that you have to deal with. A lack of a POK system is not going to stop someone calling somebody else out for a move they can't do.
jagkilledme said :
There's no way to do that but to make the standard the foundation that JaGeX has given us, which isn't really the case right now. We all know the lore and the timeline, and it's easy to search if we don't: the resource is easily available, we all know the RS wiki, but not all of us know or use the RSRP wiki. Resources for W42 canon are far, far more convoluted, which makes them too difficult to standardize.
Again, I'm not sure how what has been proposed is too difficult to even be feasible, as it really doesn't delve that much into the canon. Have guidelines for RP combat, introduce the do's and do not's for when you want to initiate a war (or if you're the defendant), et cetera. We're not delving years into 42's past here, requiring everyone to know what so-and-so did when he was ruler of a kingdom. We're just discussing how to make things less toxic.
Yet another continued post. I'll get to your main point eventually. ;-; "Legacy. What is a legacy? It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see."
Siberys | W42 RP'er |
Anything else is inadequate. The entire point between standardizing a system is to ensure quality, ease of operability (making things user-friendly) and ensuring compatibility.
While I agree with the three points in standardization, deeming everything else as inadequate... I have to disagree. Even with the abolishment of POK's, which I will get to, it wouldn't work by itself. You still have all the problems with RP combat that you have to deal with. A lack of a POK system is not going to stop someone calling somebody else out for a move they can't do.
jagkilledme said :
There's no way to do that but to make the standard the foundation that JaGeX has given us, which isn't really the case right now. We all know the lore and the timeline, and it's easy to search if we don't: the resource is easily available, we all know the RS wiki, but not all of us know or use the RSRP wiki. Resources for W42 canon are far, far more convoluted, which makes them too difficult to standardize.
Again, I'm not sure how what has been proposed is too difficult to even be feasible, as it really doesn't delve that much into the canon. Have guidelines for RP combat, introduce the do's and do not's for when you want to initiate a war (or if you're the defendant), et cetera. We're not delving years into 42's past here, requiring everyone to know what so-and-so did when he was ruler of a kingdom. We're just discussing how to make things less toxic.
Yet another continued post. I'll get to your main point eventually. ;-; "Legacy. What is a legacy? It's planting seeds in a garden you never get to see."
Siberys | W42 RP'er |
Praise Madoka.
29-Apr-2016 17:30:04
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