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Sand Traven

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On the face of it, yes, Ardougne gets 1%. But they lose that in the 60% they're handing out to whoever's sword just got sold. So effectively, they're paying out 59% of every transaction made. With the amounts of money the Avery Mining Co deals in, this would have Ardougne bankrupt within a week. They wouldn't be able to pay for their army or any public services (although, with this being roleplay, pretty much everything except the military is privatized - and sometimes even that) and fall into complete ruin, likely having a revolt or an invasion on their hands. One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

20-Apr-2012 00:52:00

DormamMagus
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the company only loses 7% as 60 is returned by ardougne. The company also becomes tax exempt when operating in ardougne from my understanding. So if you count in losing 7% but getting 33% of other sales it works out to be a good deal.
edit:
It also only applies to deals in ardougne as part of the coalition. So sales anywhere else are not effected.

20-Apr-2012 00:53:35 - Last edited on 20-Apr-2012 00:54:47 by DormamMagus

Greyson Val

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The point of Ardougne offering the extra 60% is to keep the final profit /close/ to 100%. Because it wouldn't be fair for all companies to mooch off one. It's just a trial, but all the companies do fairly well as is. And I have a lot of members that can't buy from the companies themselves because it's just.. not really something they could do as civilians.
Oops.

20-Apr-2012 00:54:15

Palpatom

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That's the thing - it's a highly flawed system.
ANY business leader could tell you that sacrificing 67% of ALL income for a fluctuating possibility of income is an incredibly stupid move. Tom ~ Player of Oliver II, King of Kandarin, Prince of Albamonte, Prince of Camelot, Keeper of the Legacy of Baxtorian and Vanguard of Armadyl.

20-Apr-2012 00:54:22

DormamMagus
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maratha you don't lose 67% you lose 7%
33% from sale 60% from ardougne =97%.
so 10 coins sword.
3 coins to you
3 company 2
3 to company 3
then 6 to you from ardougne.
so 9 coins for the sword.
now suppose each person sells a 10 coin item.
3 coins to you
3 company 2
3 to company 3
then 6 to you from ardougne.
3 coins to you
3 company 2
3 to company 3
then 6 to you from ardougne.

so 9 for your item plus 3 for each other item. so you get 15 coins for willing to take 9 coins for a sword.

20-Apr-2012 00:55:54 - Last edited on 20-Apr-2012 01:01:39 by DormamMagus

Greyson Val

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But it's not permanent. This is just a trial to see how this will work out. If it works well, Ardougne and the companies will figure out a much better system to work off of. For now, Ardougen can easily spare the funds to help with this to see if it'll do what's needed. Think of it like a large investment.
Oops.

20-Apr-2012 00:56:49 - Last edited on 20-Apr-2012 00:58:08 by Greyson Val

Sand Traven

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What Maratha means is that by selling a sword made by another company for 10 coins (that 10 coins is the 100%), you'd then have to relinquish 67% percent of that. In the eyes of a merchant, a sale made by him is his profit. The whole ten coins should be his. While perhaps one or even two coins of tax would be acceptable, to lose 67%? That's pretty steep. One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

20-Apr-2012 00:58:52

Greyson Val

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yes, but Ardougne replaces most of those lost funds. And a merchant doesn't need to agree, but also, any merchant would give wares away if they could as samples if it drums up more buisness. This isn't just for Ardougne, it'll help bring in more cash.
And if they're smart like knddnk is... they'll do a small price hike. He raised his by 15%.
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20-Apr-2012 01:01:37

Palpatom

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Oh, so to fund your mad plans, you wish to inflict this on the customers - you'd lose custom to foreign companies, profits would drop and the system would fail. Tom ~ Player of Oliver II, King of Kandarin, Prince of Albamonte, Prince of Camelot, Keeper of the Legacy of Baxtorian and Vanguard of Armadyl.

20-Apr-2012 01:09:37

Greyson Val

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Okay, one more try. I'll break it down into a list.
There are three (3) companies. Company A, B, and C.
Company A sells a sword for 10 gold. Here is the break down.
Company A gets 3 gold.
Company B gets 3 gold.
Company C gets 3 gold.
So the breakdown now is 3 gold per business.
Ardougne then compensates Company A 60% (6 Gold) for selling through Ardougne.
The new breakdown is:
Company A: 9 Gold.
Company B: 3 Gold.
Company C: 3 Gold.
Now, Company B comes in, and sells a shield for 10 gold. It gets divided as stated and now the funds stand as.
Company A: 12 Gold.
Company B: 6 Gold.
Company C: 6 gold.
Once more, Ardougne comes in to reimburse the Company 60%. Now the fund go to:
Company A: 12 Gold.
Company B: 12 Gold.
Company C: 6 Gold.
So far, Company A and Company B have sold one thing, and have made a 2 Gold profit, while Company C has made 6 Gold profit without selling /anything/.
Company C now sells a piece of Plate Armor for 30 gold. It gets divided into 33%. The new breakdown is:
Company A: 21 Gold.
Company B: 21 Gold.
Company C: 15 Gold.
Ardougne once more comes in and reimburses 60%, it now stands like so.
Company A: 21 Gold.
Company B: 21 Gold.
Company C: 39 Gold.
Each Company is now making massive profit, and they all only sold one thing. The 1% goes to Ardougne, which right now is to be ignored as it does nothing special.
Hopefully, this explains it much better then fancy words.
Oops.

20-Apr-2012 01:23:42 - Last edited on 20-Apr-2012 04:02:56 by Greyson Val

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