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She-Bat
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- Name(IC): Lichas Engel
- Item(s) Wanted: Iron Two-handed sword
- Description: I wish to have a iron-two handed sword made with major alterations to the design, particulary to enlargen it considerably for a large man. It needs to measure 7 feet 6 inches (2.24 m, which would make it weigh 23 pounds (10 kg). It should also have a crossguard that consists of two downward-curving arms and two large, round, concave plates that protects the foregrip. The round guards should resemble an open clam.

02-Jul-2013 20:20:02 - Last edited on 02-Jul-2013 21:17:46 by She-Bat

Sand Traven

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A courier, told simply to deliver a letter to Dane Avery, would, gods willing, show up at Dane's office with the letter. He has been paid for the delivery in advance, and he will leave with a polite bow once the letter has been delivered. The letter is written on vellum of fine quality, though free from embellishments. The writing would seem to be an attempt at high-quality cursive inscription, though there are some mistakes here and there.

((Is he a sir or a lord? If he's a lord, replace any "sirs" with "lords." It's the kind of thing Rahman would make sure of beforehand, but I can't find it anywhere on your thread.))

To: Sir Dane Avery of Avery Enterprises.

I will keep this brief, for both our sakes. I write this message to you as the new Caliph of Al Kharid. I have been working through the city's administrative backlog and your name has come up numerous times as the head of the company granted mineral rights to Al Kharid's mines in the past. I can see that in recent times many have chosen instead to bar you from the mines.

Due to Al Kharid's economic ruin at the hands of many of these leaders and our present slow growth, I am inclined to allow your company back into Al Kharid. Naturally this arrangement would have many smaller details to work out. As a broad overview, this is what I am prepared to give you:

- The mines themselves would remain sovereign territory of the Caliphate, with full administrative rights granted to Avery Enterprises.
- At least 90% of the labour force is to be hired from among the citizens of Al Kharid. A full living wage is to be paid by Avery Enterprises to all Al Kharidian workers, regardless of their position within the mine.
- All ore mined will be property of Al Kharid, with Avery Enterprises buying what they wish from the city.
- Avery Enterprises will receive a discount on all mineral ores mined, at a rate of 25% per ton of raw metal ore. On gold, the discount will be 15%. On coal and silver, it will be 20%.

con One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

05-Jul-2013 12:25:38

Sand Traven

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- Avery Enterprises will be subject to a reduced business tax rate on transactions conducted within the city. Transactions performed within Al Kharid between Avery Enterprises and third parties present but not resident within Al Kharid will be taxed at 10% of value (VAT) rather than the usual 15%. Transactions between Avery Enterprises and businesses resident within Al Kharid will be taxed at only 5% of value (VAT).
- Al Kharid mine is primarily an open-cast mine with additional deposits existing beneath the surface. No additional tunnels may be built without the written permission of either myself or a High Priest of Al Kharid, as recognised by the Caliphate.

All of the above may be subject to change at a later time, in which case dialogue will be opened between Avery Enterprises and Al Kharid. You may contact me with your reply by letter, or if you wish to conduct negotiations in person or through a representative, he or she will be warmly received within the Temple of Al Kharid.

May the sun shine on all your endeavours,

Caliph Rahman Al-Musafa. One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

05-Jul-2013 12:25:51 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2013 12:43:06 by Sand Traven

Nomadess

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Sand Traven said :

- At least 90% of the labour force is to be hired from among the citizens of Al Kharid. A full living wage is to be paid by Avery Enterprises to all Al Kharidian workers, regardless of their position within the mine.
- All ore mined will be property of Al Kharid, with Avery Enterprises buying what they wish from the city.


This is a rip-off. You expect Avery Enterprises to /hire/ workers, paying them /Avery Enterprises Money/ yet don't even allow Avery Enterprises to keep any of the ore the workers mine. By accepting this, Avery Enterprises will be making NO money yet Spending tons.

I strongly discourage Brock in doing this. All you are doing is trying to use Avery Enterprises, practically stealing from the company in order to get Al Kharid back up and working because you(IC you) are too lazy to do the work yourself to rebuild? "The Truth about Bob Ross; he's immortal. Even when he's dead he has a LIVE stream."

05-Jul-2013 21:23:52

Sand Traven

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That's a bit strong isn't, Salvyn? I shouldn't have to tell you about the merits of IC-OOC separation, but I'm going to let this one slide because I'm a nice guy like that.

Here's a few things you might want to consider:

- Rahman is a businessman. If the offer seems to be leaning in his favour initially, it is because this is an opening offer. If Dane is unhappy with the terms, I expect him to make a counter-offer. Y'know, like how businessmen do. I should not have to explain this to a member of a business roleplay.

- This manner of deal, whereby a company runs a mine on land owned by someone else and pays them for how much ore they dig out of it, is perfectly straightforward and is found all over the world IRL. If the ore dug from the mine is not property of Al Kharid, why exactly would Avery Enterprises pay for it? Rather than pay a monthly flat rate for access to the mine, which in the long run could mean a heavy loss if the mine doesn't yield much ore in a particular month, the company will, under Rahman's offer, only pay for what they want out of what is dug. Essentially they get first dibs on the ore, being able to pick out only the purest for themselves. They then sell this elsewhere to make a profit, or send it to the workshops to be made into weapons or armour for even greater profit.

- I spoke to Brock yesterday and he said that Avery Enterprises hires predominantly local labour. Obviously the mine workers can't all be Kharidian, because there may be none there with expert knowledge of the Enterprise's administration system or of the finer points of tunnel digging according to the Enterprise's policy on such matters. The 90% thing is Rahman's attempt to ensure as many of his people as possible benefit from the arrangement.

- If I wanted to shaft Avery Enterprises, I wouldn't have made such a fuss when Kandarin repossessed our mines there. Contrast this with some others who figured it'd be fine to let it slide, regardless of the rules.

Continued. One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

05-Jul-2013 23:26:58

Sand Traven

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Continued from above.

- Your last point is particularly intriguing. Do you expect me to roleplay my character ferreting around in fountains for spare change in order to "get Al Kharid back up and working?" If not, then how exactly? Perhaps by negotiating lucrative trade deals with business roleplays? Working with other roleplays to secure jobs for the citizens of the city my character is in charge of? That would seem to be the normal way of going about things, no?

If I was lazy, as is the charge leveled at me by yourself, then I would simply say "hooray, we've found a load of treasure buried under the city, we're all rich again!" I chose to keep Al Kharid in its beggared state in order for the roleplay to develop rather than be rofl-prosperous.

- You may be interested to know that others were dismayed to find that I was giving Avery Enterprises access to the mines at such a low cost to the company.

I'll leave it here for now. I've said what needs to be said; any extra would consist of me being unnecessarily insulting and patronising. One man's trash is another's treasure, and one man's cash buys another's pleasure.
So I'll rob from the cradle, and I'll rob from the grave; it's just human traffic, and I'm just a slave.

05-Jul-2013 23:27:10 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2013 23:39:16 by Sand Traven

Nomadess

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My point is this. It's nothing against hiring Al Kharidians. The fact of the matter is you are allowing Avery Enterprises to come in to mine /for you/ to hire /your people/ for /you/ to keep the ore. Nothing in the "contract" states you will be paying Avery Enterprises ANYTHING for our services meaning we're paying to mine /your ore/ for NO compensation for Avery Enterprises, other than discounted ores.

No matter what is said, this is a rip-off for Avery Enterprises as, per your contract, Avery Enterprises makes /NO/ money from it despite the money we put into it. "The Truth about Bob Ross; he's immortal. Even when he's dead he has a LIVE stream."

05-Jul-2013 23:45:40

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