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So you know of carbon fiber, or have heard of it. You might have heard some line in a superhero movie, "THIS STUFF IS STRONGER THAN STEEL! ITS A FANTASTIC MATERIAL!"

On some cars out there, you** probably also seen how some body panels are made of carbon fiber. ( or, if you're cheap like me, painted to look like it ;) ). One of the questions that always bothered me before was this: "If carbon fiber or whatever is so strong, why isnt the whole dang car made of the stuff? Why not make airplanes from it?"

Carbon fiber is what's known as an*sotropic . What that essentially means is that the properties of the material depend on the direction in which the material is loaded or observed . There's a kind of grain pattern, a lot like wood, that controls how well a specimen will stand up to constant use. And, srs, carbon fiber is very much an*sotropic. (edit: an i so tropic)

What does that mean for the car? The stuff cant be feasibly used in every body piece since it might not be suitable for the type of loading that a particular piece is exposed to. so, carbon fiber is only applied to a few select pieces.

(Some manufacturers might take cost into consideration as well but thats another problem for another day)

On airplanes, its largely because of heat. Carbon fiber, compared to a lot of metals, doesnt exactly have a high service temperature; itll stop being usable very quickly as the temp goes up.
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30-Jun-2015 01:58:40 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2015 01:59:39 by Boomboxx3

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Some basic eng and material definitions, for those interested:

STIFFNESS -- nonpermanent deformation (think rubber bands); measured (generally) with Young's modulus, although bulk and shear modulus also used; stiff specimens are hard to bend around

STRENGTH-- permanent deformation (think metal smithing); measured with yield strength; stronger specimens are harder to smith and move around permanently

HARDNESS/TOUGHNESS -- resistance to fracturing (think glass); measured with fractural toughness; low toughness means more fracturing

Edit:

ok tbh my definitions seemed condescendingly obvious, sorry. i should include an example to give them depth, and to make them seem a little more significant.

Pretend you're the designer of some bottle and bottle cap. Like snapple.

Should the cap be tough? Id say so, since a broken bottle cap isnt really something id want to have near my fingers.

How strong and stiff should it be? (this is the big question)

On one hand, you want it to be strong enough so that it doesnt change shape every time you open/close the bottle. On the other hand, you want to be only be stiff enough so that the cap can "snap" in and out of its position.

So, in other words, you want the cap material to be reasonably strong yet not all that stiff. . It almost sounds counterintuitive, but it illustrates the need to have different definitions for strength and stiffness.
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30-Jun-2015 02:21:28 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2015 02:34:15 by Boomboxx3

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Been busy with school, so I'll post something tomorrow about circuits.

Here's some for circuits

We can see that

Voltage = Current x Resistance

and from that we can find that

Current = Voltage / Resistance

or

Resistance = Voltage / Current

There's another equation I would like to bring up

Power = Current x Voltage

and we can substitute the other equations into the equation I have above. I'm sure everyone can do basic Algebra so I'll skip that and come back tomorrow.
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03-Jul-2015 22:05:00

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RubiksCube77 said :
Been busy with school, so I'll post something tomorrow about circuits.

Here's some for circuits

We can see that

Voltage = Current x Resistance

and from that we can find that

Current = Voltage / Resistance

or

Resistance = Voltage / Current

There's another equation I would like to bring up

Power = Current x Voltage

and we can substitute the other equations into the equation I have above. I'm sure everyone can do basic Algebra so I'll skip that and come back tomorrow.
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04-Jul-2015 09:18:18

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1--------------------------1
1 1
1 1
1 1
1 1
--------(Light bulb)---------(Imagine a wire from the top to the battery)
1 1
1 1
1 1
1 1
---------(Battery)-----------

Here's something interesting I learned on review of material from electromagnetism on week one of my circuits class. We know that a battery is considered to maintain a constant voltage in an ideal situation. If it's rated for 9V, then it will supply 9V to the circuit, and 0V will come back to the negative terminal of the battery due to Kirc*hoff's voltage law. The light bulb can be treated as a resistor. The wires in this circuit are treated as ideal because the resistance of the wires is much less than the resistance of the light bulb. Ignoring the wires above the light bulb, we can see the light bulb is lit up because there is enough current flowing through it to supply power. Power = Current x Voltage and there is a voltage drop that happens and 0V return to the battery, and this process repeats. Now what happens if we include the wire on the top? The light bulb will go out because there isn't enough current going through to the light bulb and the majority of the current has split off at a junction to the top wire because the most current will flow through to the path of least resistance. And when that happens we must take into account the resistance of the wire and this won't be treated as an ideal situation anymore.

I like circuits, but I'm not the best at this. I still have to know this stuff though. Anyway back to studying for me. I'll see you guys tomorrow or next week.

Edit: Ugh the diagram is messed up
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04-Jul-2015 23:36:02 - Last edited on 04-Jul-2015 23:38:22 by RubiksCube77

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I think I already did cover that the wire does have a bit of resistance. I did however forget one thing that also has resistance. The battery has a bit of internal resistance, but of course since I'm treating it as ideal, there is no resistance.

Besides the circuits class, I'm also taking General Chemistry prep since I didn't take the required chemistry courses for my degree yet. One thing I did come across in the book was this. Ugh can't find it at the moment. It was something about criminals having more cobalt I think, and I was going to share what it said verbatim. Maybe I'll come back to it later.

I'll be back tomorrow.
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