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Philasophia

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Philosophia - "Philosophy" - Meaning the "Love of wisdom."

What are some of your favorite philosophical quotes/ideas?

They can be your own or from other philosophers.

It is rumored that the Greek philosopher Diogenes roamed through Athens w/ a candle or lantern and held it to the citizens saying, "I'm looking for an honest man but am unable to find one." A brilliant philosopher.

This next idea is a general one amongst those who appreciate thinking: "An appeal to one's own authority is the tactic of the intellectually outclassed."

I'm eager to hear from others. I am a light within the RuneScape forums. Not just any light, but the light of Diogenes searching for a single honest person.

30-Jun-2022 19:15:32 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2022 21:07:33 by Philasophia

Kiwi Magic

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One of my favourite quotes is from that little guy Yoda in the Star Wars movies. Most commonly known as

'Do or do not, there is no try.'

In the movie Luke Skywalker was given a task by Yoda and Luke said 'Ok i'll try.'

And Yoda replied 'No. Try not. Do… or do not. There is no try.'
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30-Jun-2022 20:21:54

Philasophia

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Kiwi Magic said :
One of my favourite quotes is from that little guy Yoda in the Star Wars movies. Most commonly known as

'Do or do not, there is no try.'

In the movie Luke Skywalker was given a task by Yoda and Luke said 'Ok i'll try.'

And Yoda replied 'No. Try not. Do… or do not. There is no try.'

Most certainly. But remember, action should be taken under the guidance of valid reasoning. There are too many "Men of action" as Dostoevsky would describe them who simply act without thinking. They see a law and it appears concrete and entirely valid to them. They are incapable of reasoning outside of it and often times find themselves running into it time and time again due to intellectual incompetence. When prodded in regards to the wall's validity, they merely restate the existence of the wall in plain terms, as if its existence itself justifies its being there. These are the sorts of people whom when questioned about past atrocities say "I was just following orders." Very dangerous indeed.

Keep up the great replies! I am a light within the RuneScape forums. Not just any light, but the light of Diogenes searching for a single honest person.

30-Jun-2022 20:35:27 - Last edited on 30-Jun-2022 20:38:01 by Philasophia

Kiwi Magic

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Yeah the quote I gave as an example is not easy to live your life by, or even get your head around it sometimes.

But it can probably build character and confidence, much like that famous Nike slogan 'Just Do It'.

Although I failed a lot, my mother raised me to have that attitude, but she is old school. And she very much has always had that attitude.
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30-Jun-2022 21:27:46

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some athiest quotes for you ;)

Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man?





is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
then he is not omnipotent

is he abl, but not willing?
then he is malevolent

is he both able and willing?
then whence cometh evil?

is he neither able nor willing?
then why call him god?
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01-Jul-2022 19:47:34

Philasophia

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Tenebri said :
some athiest quotes for you ;)

Is man merely a mistake of God's? Or God merely a mistake of man?





is god willing to prevent evil, but not able?
then he is not omnipotent

is he abl, but not willing?
then he is malevolent

is he both able and willing?
then whence cometh evil?

is he neither able nor willing?
then why call him god?



Beautiful. I'm going to expand upon this by exploring the implications of God's supposed attributes for man's morality. Consider what is required for omniscience: Everything must be strictly determined. You can only know everything ahead of time if it is fated. If God is not only omniscient but omnipotent, then the world is necessitated by God. It's worse than to say... "God is malevolent." It's that mankind has no ability to actually be good or evil. He cannot act outside of a determined trajectory. Now, for man to act indeterminately, let's say via the principles of compatibilism, God must not be omniscient. At the moment I can only imagine one circumstance under which God is omniscient and omnipotent, yet man also possesses morality - that being a willful blindness and revocation of omnipotence concerning the outcomes within our universe, while perhaps maintaining such attributes outside the confines of this universe. The question then might be "Why do this?" Perhaps a creation that is entirely necessitated and predictable is dull and without dignity... Who knows? Personally, I'm agnostic concerning God, but enthusiastic about the subject. I am a light within the RuneScape forums. Not just any light, but the light of Diogenes searching for a single honest person.

01-Jul-2022 22:43:02 - Last edited on 01-Jul-2022 22:46:55 by Philasophia

Philasophia

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Archaeox said :
"Cogito, ergo sum." / "I think, therefore I am."

Absolutely fundamental.

Certainly fundamental. I would love to add a bit of psychology to this idea. Most of our thoughts are unconsciously generated by our biases which come from God knows where... Nature? Culture? But let's suppose thoughts were reducible to both cultural and biological determinism with no other factor involved. Is it appropriate to say you exist? What is this "you" that you speak of? Our thoughts and perceptions are certainly shaped by cultural and biological influences, but is there something more? What about "Thinking about thinking?" I believe this to be even more fundamental to our right to say we exist than merely having thoughts. We can subject our thoughts to conscious evaluation in order to not be necessitated by them. I am a light within the RuneScape forums. Not just any light, but the light of Diogenes searching for a single honest person.

01-Jul-2022 22:56:41 - Last edited on 01-Jul-2022 22:57:46 by Philasophia

Philasophia

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Great input guys.. Lovely.

I'm going to throw this moral dilemma out there in case somebody wants to take a crack at it.

Let's suppose there was a rule that you're not supposed to engage in any laborious acts on a certain day of the week - Let's say Mondays (Oh, how lovely would that be?)

Now, let's suppose you have a sibling who is mentally incapable of understanding and thus following the rules. Let's suppose it's -40 degrees Celsius outside and they endanger themselves by climbing up a tree and onto the roof of your house. Let's suppose that under this rule, getting a ladder and helping them down would constitute labor, but if you don't do it, they will die of hypothermia. You also know that your mentally incompetent sibling may hurt themselves or even be killed if they attempt to get down unaided. It is within your power to grab a ladder and bring them down to safety.

The question is... Is it sometimes appropriate to break the rules for what may be deemed to be a higher ethical purpose ?

Feel free to give a stance or offer some other unrelated philosophical ideas. I am a light within the RuneScape forums. Not just any light, but the light of Diogenes searching for a single honest person.

02-Jul-2022 00:09:06 - Last edited on 02-Jul-2022 00:32:20 by Philasophia

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