RuneScape Forum Archive | Climate Change: Not Just CO2

Mar

2007

XSlay4DeathX

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@Nexus only issue with nuclear power is chances for meltdowns, one plane crash in the wrong area and boom unlivable area.

I don't think clean can be stamped on nuclear power given clean up is a waiting game, Chernobyl happened in 1986, still radioactive today and still posses issues, not to mention the water you have to dispose of is dirty.

Think Japan said they were going to dump radioactive water into the ocean. seems quite clean to me

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water rising, lets burn it, lets go back to steam power. That should knock some gallons away.

30-May-2023 02:37:51

Kiwi Magic

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I think some people are getting carried away with this climate change stuff. For sure it is a real thing, but imagine if a reasonably big meteorite crashed into Earth, then the survivors would be talking about climate change differently.

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30-May-2023 03:09:13

Origin Nexus

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XSlay4DeathX said :
@Nexus only issue with nuclear power is chances for meltdowns, one plane crash in the wrong area and boom unlivable area. Why would you build any power plant where people live? That just seems unsafe. If a fossil fuel power station gets hit by a plane, it's going to explode, and kill everyone around too. Depending on what other chemicals are in the explosion, it might be "unlivable" for quite some time as well.

Statistically speaking, over the last 70 years there have only been a small handful of nuclear power plant accidents, compared to the constant explosions happening at oil refineries and such.

I do understand the risks of radiation, however, I think those risks might be a bit exaggerated. Chernobyl for example... you can literally pay for a tour through all the "unlivable" areas, and there are people who never actually moved out, and are still living there after 40 years.

There are new technologies for recycling spent uranium, and for decontaminating radiation from spent water from the cooling towers as well, so the progress is being made in that respect.

30-May-2023 04:03:41

Origin Nexus

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You know what's weird and dangerous, that no one seems to be talking about? The fact that they're packing refrigerators full of explosives... in an attempt to be more "environmentally friendly".

Refrigerator explodes less than year after homeowner purchases it

https://youtu.be/2EMW0lDEJ00

Fridge explodes violently, shatters 4 windows in Fresno County home

https://youtu.be/hRO9ti6TaQw

Refrigerator explodes inside makeshift garage in Las Vegas

https://youtu.be/85vmIA80Os0

Fridge Exploded

https://youtu.be/yDaT2cyOQHg

Fridge explosion a near miss to customer at C China Internet cafe

https://youtu.be/TZeKjzwfjAY

MY WHIRILPOOL REFRIDGERATOR EXPLODED without any warning! Part 1

https://youtu.be/Rmwl9QShag0

MY WHIRLPOOL REFRIGERATOR EXPLODES BLEW MY HOUSE UP It would have killed me! Part 2

https://youtu.be/mkCh7Vs01hA

The list goes on and on... but I think you get the idea here... they're filling your refrigerators up with explosives because it's more "environmentally friendly".

It might blow up and kill you, but it's better for the environment.

30-May-2023 04:20:05

Feb

2023

BrunoNutto

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Nexus I have a question for you out of honest interest in a subject I admit to not knowing much about.

If all these things (or most of them) you say are true, then why did big oil companies bribe politicians, pay off scientists to lie in public, and hide data from their own internal enquiries in an attempt to stifle the climate change debate?

If the truth is as you say, and human activity is a trifling effect, why was big oil so damned scared of it?

30-May-2023 10:42:00

Origin Nexus

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BrunoNutto said :
Nexus I have a question for you out of honest interest in a subject I admit to not knowing much about.

If all these things (or most of them) you say are true, then why did big oil companies bribe politicians, pay off scientists to lie in public, and hide data from their own internal enquiries in an attempt to stifle the climate change debate?

If the truth is as you say, and human activity is a trifling effect, why was big oil so damned scared of it? Are you implying that big environmental doesn't bribe politicians, pay off scientists, and hide data in an attempt to promote climate change narratives?

You don't really believe that Dr. Mickey Mouse was an actual scientist, do you? ^_^

If it's real, why do they fake it? Why all the false narratives? Why all the claims of "clean energy" when they're not actually clean energy? Why all the claims of "sustainable energy" when it's clearly not sustainable. Why put the blame on the general public? It's because at the end of the day... it's all about money. If they blame you, then they can take money from you.

If you want my opinion on why big oil would be scared of "climate change" is because no facts actually matter in the debate when large organizations are "lobbying" for certain changes that would directly impact big oil. No one in charge is actually going to care at the end of the day what the reality is, the person with the most money, or the best deal, wins. And then it's just a matter of spinning the PR and marketing. And it doesn't matter what impact it will actually have on the daily life of the average person. You're not actually part of the equation when these deals are made. You just have to suck it up and go on with your life.

That is, unless your refrigerator blows up and kills you because some eco-warrior was promoting R600a as "environmentally friendly". Sure, it has a lower GWP, but unlike R134a, it's extremely volatile; it blows up.

30-May-2023 11:57:59

Origin Nexus

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The UN wants $100 billion to "fight climate change". How many carbon capture facilities do you think they're going to build with $100 billion? Do you think they'll build any at all? What do you think they're actually doing with all that money? Where is all this money actually going?

They're going to have $100 billion to "fight climate change"... but... what does that actually mean?

30-May-2023 12:04:41

Feb

2023

BrunoNutto

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Sure, there are scammers and grifters amongst the eco types. Never doubted that at all. All the self-appointed "experts" who make a career talking to media about this stuff annoys me as well.

But big oil was found guilty of these things I mentioned in the congressional enquiry, right? And at the the time they were doing it in the 60s, 70s and 80s when almost everyone thought eco-activists were whackos anyway.

30-May-2023 12:41:40

Origin Nexus

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BrunoNutto said :
But big oil was found guilty of these things Big EVERYTHING is guilty of these things.

BrunoNutto said :
at the the time they were doing it in the 60s, 70s and 80s when almost everyone thought eco-activists were whackos anyway. The United States passed The Air Pollution Control Act in 1955. There were no regulations in the act, it was simply a blank cheque. This opened the door for "green money". Environmentalism was suddenly highly profitable. This created Big Environmental which then promptly went after Big Oil, because without a target, there was no profit to be made.

30-May-2023 13:23:00

Feb

2023

BrunoNutto

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Origin Nexus said :
BrunoNutto said :
But big oil was found guilty of these things Big EVERYTHING is guilty of these things.

Yes, true.

BrunoNutto said :
at the the time they were doing it in the 60s, 70s and 80s when almost everyone thought eco-activists were whackos anyway. The United States passed The Air Pollution Control Act in 1955. There were no regulations in the act, it was simply a blank cheque. This opened the door for "green money". Environmentalism was suddenly highly profitable. This created Big Environmental which then promptly went after Big Oil, because without a target, there was no profit to be made.

Ah, thx for that.

30-May-2023 18:56:07

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