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03-Mar-2011 01:27:58

Helios223

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:| I'm not 'falling' for anything. I have done a lot of research on this subject, had university lectures on it, and spoken to several climate scientists. If anything you have fallen for the anti-science rhetoric of places like the Heartland institute and Fox news.
Anyway this thread is not about whether it exists or not because it is beyond that. If you had bothered to read it you would know this.
It is about positive ACTION. What we are *doing* to fight it, rather than just arguing about it.
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03-Mar-2011 10:53:50

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Ajajaj doing a project on fusion now sort of. I just started. It's actually more of a marketing project, even though it's supposed to be an engineering class...e*. But anyways.
Deuterium and tritium are supposed to be far easier to obtain than helium-3, rait? But helium-3 supposedly has the potential to be cleaner (even though they're all clean compared to fission), more efficient, blah blah blah.
Long story short, the sources I've had are somewhat conflicting, with some preaching the long-term benefits of helium-3 while others maintain that they're simply not as practical as DT reactions and never will be.
INPUT PLZ.

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Helios223

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That's correct, He-3 is much harder to come by than deuterium. I think we can in fact extract deuterium from sea water while any exposed helium just shoots up through the atmosphere and leaves Earth.
I remember reading somewhere that 1 gallon of seawater contains enough deuterium for it to be equivalent of 300 gallons of petrol. Not sure how accurate that is but it might be close.
As for the relative cleanliness of each route, I do not know too much about that so I can't really comment.
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03-Mar-2011 21:55:12 - Last edited on 03-Mar-2011 21:55:51 by Helios223

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I honestly don't believe climate change had hardly if anything to do with human activity. I've reasearched both sides for projects and speeches I had to work on a few years ago and in my opinion, it's all natural in the cycle we're in, the Holocene.
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03-Mar-2011 21:57:39

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It's not natural.
I can point to one fairly easy-to-understand paper which completely proves the case.
Meehl, Gerald A., Warren M. Washington, Caspar M. Ammann, Julie M. Arblaster, T. M. L. Wigley, Claudia Tebaldi, 2004: Combinations of Natural and Anthropogenic Forcings in Twentieth-Century Climate. J. Climate, 17, 3721–3727.
Should be fairly easy to find from that.
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03-Mar-2011 22:03:54

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03-Mar-2011 22:05:58

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Many climatologists try to fake the case of Global Warming all of the time. They know that if the truth is revealed that it's false, they will be out of jobs.
Many people are using this as an excuse as another tax tactic to pay for our "carbon footprint." There are so many facts that the better half of the media leave out hen reporting.
1. Water vapor is the main cause of the Greenhouse effect, not carbon dioxide.
2. Although some parts of the arctic are heating, there are plenty of other parts cooling down.
3. Back in the '70s, we were being scared into an oncoming iceage, and now that it's getting warmer, we're hearing the same fears again, but opposite.
...And then there are little signs of the people behind the big green movement such as Al Gore. He claims that in the few years to come, if what we're doing to "harm" the planet continues, that our sea levels would rise by the feet, yet he lives with a higher gas and electrical bill than the average person with a 20 room mansion.
I'm not trying to bring anyone down, but I'm just trying to show the other side as well.
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