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Dong U Dead

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FiFi LaFeles said :
Dong U Dead said :
FiFi LaFeles said :
You can't healthy-eat your way out of catching potentially killer viruses if they are circulating in your area and avoiding junk food won't stop them killing you.

So let's stop pretending that eating Maccy D's is to blame eh?
It has been proven if you're obese, have a unhealthy life style or underlying problem Covid can hit you harder and possibly more fatal.

Healthy life style does help, it's a huge help.

Being fat does not increase your chances of contracting this virus. D'uh.

Viruses don't go whizzing around the place 'scoping people out and think "Oh YAY! A fatty, let's have that one instead of the skinny one standing next in line".

Plus, not everyone who eats junk food is fat. Not everyone who is fat is unhealthy according to you .... you said this yourself on a thread not long ago. You said you, yourself, are fat but very healthy.
You said it's possible to be fat and healthy but now when it suits you, being fat is a hazard to health. Make your mind up.

And the post I was responding to rattled on about getting sleep and having breaks at work being a factor in avoiding catching and being ill with Covid. Wut? Everyone sleeps, it's not a lifestyle choice. Except for the tiny number of people who suffer from insomnia.

How does having a tea break at work help you not catch Covid?

The specific statements I was replying to were pitiful in their silliness.

Incidentally you also said that herd immunity was the way to beat the virus. I remember it well because I disagreed with the statement. But now you don't believe that. Make your mind up.
If fat means flavour then I'm ******* delicious!

18-Jan-2021 00:40:10

Dong U Dead

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New Zealand wants to inject everyone with one of the vaccines once it becomes available - I don't feel everyone needs to be vaccinated as the majority of the world gets through it with no side effects.

I know where I am working you have to be vaccinated against it eventually to work there, I feel that's wrong. I will have to make a decision at the time.
If fat means flavour then I'm ******* delicious!

18-Jan-2021 00:46:08

Dong U Dead

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Fifi, I have never said being fat isn't hazardous. Being fat, obese is very hazardous.



https://www.heart.org/en/news/2020/11/17/covid-19-patients-of-all-ages-with-obesity-face-
higher-risk-of-complications-death

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/09/why-covid-19-more-deadly-people-obesity-even-if-theyre-young


I would love to see the post where I said heard immunity was the way to beat the virus <- I've never said this.
If fat means flavour then I'm ******* delicious!

18-Jan-2021 01:12:47

NexOrigin

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FiFi LaFeles said :
Viruses don't go whizzing around the place 'scoping people out and think "Oh YAY! A fatty, let's have that one instead of the skinny one standing next in line". Yeah, everyone knows that viruses wait until it's night time to attack people, which is why you're not allowed out after 8pm or before 7am.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO COMPLY. IF YOU GO OUT AT NIGHT, THE VIRUS WILL GET YOU.

Except if you have a dog with you, then it's fine, because viruses are scared of dogs. If you have a dog, you're allowed outside any time of the night.

BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE A DOG, YOU"RE NOT ALLOWED OUTSIDE AT NIGHT, FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION. COMPLY. COMPLY. COMPLY. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

18-Jan-2021 05:04:14 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2021 05:05:45 by NexOrigin

Stoat King

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Dong U Dead said :
I would love to see the post where I said heard immunity was the way to beat the virus <- I've never said this.
Again, noone ever claimed you said that. You did. Sigh.
What people have claimed is that you advocated (ie supported) herd immunity.
Which you did repeatedly. Recently on this thread too.

This tactic of doubling down and making up even more stuff to defend your 'position' isn't going to fool anyone.

I don't get why you're doing this - its all written down for anyone to read ffs.
Its almost as if you WANT to look as foolish as possible.

18-Jan-2021 07:38:08

ToP BaSS

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So much for the trumpeted "Herd Immunity" theory...

Almost a third of recovered Covid patients are readmitted to hospital within five months and up to one in eight die of Covid-related complications.

Research by Leicester University and the Office for National Statistics (ONS) found that out of 47,780 people discharged from hospital in the first wave, 29.4 per cent returned to hospital within 140 days and 12.3 per cent died.

The devastating long-term effects of coronavirus can cause many survivors to develop heart problems, diabetes and chronic liver and kidney conditions.

Study author Kamlesh Khunti, professor of primary care diabetes and vascular medicine at Leicester University
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9157893/Covid-UK-One-eight-recovered-Covid-patients-DIE-140-days.html
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/17/almost-third-recovered-covid-patients-return-hospital-five-months/

18-Jan-2021 07:41:46

NexOrigin

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ToP BaSS said :
So much for the trumpeted "Herd Immunity" theory...
...
What does that have to do with herd immunity? They didn't die from contracting the virus a second time, they died from other complications, notably diabetes 2:
Original message details are unavailable.
But Professor Khunti said he was surprised to find that patients were returning to hospital with a different diagnosis and that many had developed further complications.

He added: 'We don't know if it's because Covid destroyed the beta cells which make insulin and you get Type 1 diabetes, or whether it causes insulin resistance, and you develop Type 2, but we are seeing these surprising new diagnoses of diabetes.'
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/17/almost-third-recovered-covid-patients-return-hospital-five-months/


But what could be causing this massive spike in diabetes 2?

Hmmm... didn't we discuss vitamin D deficiencies earlier in the thread? Pretty sure we did. And now, oh, hey, look, now we have even more evidence that point to a definitive vitamin D deficiency issue being prevalent as a result of the lockdowns.

Original message details are unavailable.
If you have a vitamin D deficiency, you’re more likely to develop type 2 diabetes. Vitamin D helps your body produce hormones that regulate your blood sugar. Without it, your blood sugar is more likely to fluctuate and spiral out of control.
https://www.goodrx.com/blog/diseases-linked-to-vitamin-d-deficiency-diabetes-dementia-cancer/


1. Get covid, go to hospital
2. Get released, return home on lockdown
3. Contract diabetes 2 from vitamin D deficiency
4. Die from diabetes complications

Am I missing anything here?

Like I said before, the lockdowns are causing issues, and vitamin D deficiencies are becoming more and more apparent. But those who are issuing the orders are not going to tell you that they and the lockdowns are one of the reasons why more people are getting sick and dying. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great! :)

18-Jan-2021 08:12:56

ToP BaSS

ToP BaSS

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NexOrigin said :
What does that have to do with herd immunity? They didn't die from contracting the virus a second time, they died from other complications, notably diabetes 2:

Eermm you need to read ....

"The devastating long-term effects of Coronavirus can cause many survivors to develop heart problems, diabetes and chronic liver and kidney conditions."

Not sure if many (if any) has died from anything called Covid19 - they die from problems that develop from contracting the virus. In the cases point out those who have recovered from the virus and subsequently died from Covid-related complications.

It has do with Herd Immunity - (if you follow the recent posts) in the sense that certain people consider the survivability of contracting the virus as a viable option as it offers a certain immunity. The findings seem to that dispel misguided conception.

But then there are always those who ignore the facts and cherry pick supposed faults with their own interpretation of established findings - simply often to cloud an argument for the sake of championing cynicism.

18-Jan-2021 08:30:18 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2021 08:35:20 by ToP BaSS

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