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FiFi LaFeles

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Eh, some people just can't be helped. It's there, it's obvious. Think I'll leave it now lest one once again receives a spurious accusation of bulling [sic].

Anyway, onwards and upwards. The following in the News today .... a-hahaha! Not in my area they ain't. I only know one person who has received their jab, an old chap down the road who was in a major London Hospital and received it just before they discharged him:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55694967

There's a fair few old folk who are neighbours that I see regularly whilst in and out with the hounds, always pottering in their garden/taking the rubbish out/whatnot; I always have a quick shout over the fence to them, make sure all is well. None of them have received a letter yet to go get their jab and 6 of them are over 80.

Le Chat Guerrier

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17-Jan-2021 13:09:59 - Last edited on 17-Jan-2021 13:10:38 by FiFi LaFeles

FiFi LaFeles

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Dong U Dead said :
@FiFi LaFeles page 94, post 10. I never stated

Being fat does not increase your chances of contracting this virus.

I never said this.

This is what I stated:

It has been proven if you're obese, have a unhealthy life style or underlying problem Covid can hit you harder and possibly more fatal.

<- tell me where did I state you can contact the virus by being obese??

You seem to twist my words Fifi.

Also can you tell me the post number and page you refer to about you disagreeing with me on 'Heard Immunity was the way to beat the virus'. As I never said this, and would love read it myself.

Certainly. Bear with me whilst I source it. Only doing this as it's a direct request.

First - please show ME where I have told you that you stated 'you can contact the virus by being obese'. ? I never said to you that you said that. Show me where, hmmm?

I stated generally that being obese is not a factor in contracting the virus. I did not say "Dong you said that being fat is a factor in contracting the virus". So asking me to show you where you (allegedly) said it is impossible because you didn't say it (that I know of) and I didn't say you said it. So why are you accusing me of saying it when, obviously, I didn't? lololol Who is twisting words now, Dong?

What you most certainly did say, on a different thread, is that not all fat people are unhealthy and gave yourself as being an example of an obese person who is healthy. Together with examples of how you'd swim with your children and go on long walks etc.

So, you say on the one hand not all obese people are unhealthy (yourself included) and yet in many places you say that obesity is a risk factor.

Rather contradictory. Obesity is a risk factor for just about everything - and I'm talking fat people not wrestlers and rugby players with high BMI.

Le Chat Guerrier

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17-Jan-2021 13:14:11 - Last edited on 17-Jan-2021 13:50:13 by FiFi LaFeles

FiFi LaFeles

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As to the Herd Immunity issue where you are asking where I disagreed with it:

I first noticed you speaking in favour of - supporting - advocating - herd immunity unequivocally on page 116 of your previous thread.

"In the long run, heard immunity for Coronavirus type diseases is best . Immunise those that are vulnerable the rest should should catch the disease naturally".

You make a few brief references to not immunising and letting people catch the virus (i.e. herd immunity) in several posts which follow that.

On page 125 your reiterate your support, very clearly, of non-immunised herd immunity (that post has been reproduced in full by Averia in this current thread).

The conversation rumbles on over a few days over a few pages (generously interspersed by you accusing people of 'bullying' you because they disagree with your stance). On page 129 I make an extended post on the subject of non-immunisation herd immunity voicing my disagreement of it as a viable way forward.

It's a long post, very visible. You could have easily found this on your own.

Anything else I can help you with?

Le Chat Guerrier

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17-Jan-2021 13:26:07 - Last edited on 17-Jan-2021 13:59:19 by FiFi LaFeles

FiFi LaFeles

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Dong U Dead said :

Also can you tell me the post number and page you refer to about you disagreeing with me on 'Heard Immunity was the way to beat the virus'. As I never said this, and would love read it myself.

I honestly and truly cannot believe nor understand how you can say that.

Your words advocating herd immunity were there and are still there. And yet you are still denying you said herd immunity is the best way forward. You've been shown the posts where you advocate for it ... repeatedly.

You are truly a work of art.

Le Chat Guerrier

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17-Jan-2021 14:04:07

FiFi LaFeles

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Oh wait ... yes, I understand now. We are commencing a macabre waltz with semantics are we?

Oh my, oh my, oh my !!!

Let the tortured flailings of the trapped begin ......

Le Chat Guerrier

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17-Jan-2021 14:08:21 - Last edited on 17-Jan-2021 14:08:38 by FiFi LaFeles

Stoat King

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I think "a macabre waltz with semantics" is rather over-dignifying what actually going on here.
"I cannot be wrong therefore you are lying" seems more likely.

On a similar note, "I cannot be beaten therefore you are cheating" can be quite funny if you pick your moment. You also need the right amount of faux righteous indignation.

17-Jan-2021 14:16:11

Stoat King

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@Fifi - going back to what we were talking about regarding vaccines on page 96

"But if the vaccine is selecting to induce only certain, beneficial, responses then ... yeah.
I get it now. Thanks !"

Someone gave me a very dumb but kinda funny analogy for the difference.

Imagine your cells are over inflated balloons and the virus is like a conker with sharper spikes on it made of steel. They are gonna burst the balloons for sure.

If you end up with a bloodstream full of souped-up conkers for the first time, your immune system has a chance of totally freaking out which can be counter-productive.

But what the vaccine does is analogous to getting your immune system used to, not the whole conkers thing, but just the spikes. Which results in your immune system learning to effectively stick a cheese cube on the spikes of the conker. Which means they cant burst anything.

I apologise for the stupidity of the analogy, but i have reason to believe there is at least a grain of truth in it. Obviously, it is a little more complicated than that.

17-Jan-2021 14:25:20

FiFi LaFeles

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I like it. I understand things like cheese and conkers

Does the cheese neutralise the monkey-genes which will turn us all into apes and the conkers smash the tracking devices contained in the vaccine?

Presumably there's also a super-ultra-massive-top-secret ingredient that stops us from growing two heads, shedding limbs and speaking in tongues.

Le Chat Guerrier

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17-Jan-2021 16:15:19

Stoat King

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Yes. To all of that.

17-Jan-2021 16:22:59

Dong U Dead

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So Fifi, you can't show me the post!! Because it never happened, I never said those words to you that you claimed I said. I have actually never said it to anyone. I am a supporter of how New Zealand removed it from it's community, by lockdown stages, masks, distancing, people bubbles. You just have to read the threads to see where I stand.

By the way Fifi I am not fit, haven't been for years, I'm obese, I'm lucky if I swim half dozen times a year. This year I haven't swam at all, not going too. Last summer I swam out to the barge quite a few times which ain't bad for an obese lady. Going back quite a few years I walked and biked often, had no Cholesterol, well, it was extremely low, even though obese I was told I was healthy. These days my healthiness has gone down hill.

Yes, in the long run, later once the world has Covid-19 undercontrol, there is no pandemic, just like the flu you can have the jab or not; I feel it's best not to have the jab if your a healthy to build up your immunity <- I've said all this in the first thread. I have never said for any country to use heard immunity as a control measure of the virus.

Newshub: Professor Michael Baker hails COVID-19 elimination strategy as UK looks to mimic New Zealand's quarantine system almost a year on.
https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2021/01/professor-michael-baker-hails-elimination-strategy-as-uk-looks-to-mimic-new-zealand-s-quarantine-system-almost-a-year-on.html

If fat means flavour then I'm ******* delicious!

18-Jan-2021 00:15:29 - Last edited on 18-Jan-2021 00:59:06 by Dong U Dead

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