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Vaccinated people will still need to wear a mask. Here’s why
https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/health-family/vaccinated-people-will-still-need-to-wear-a-mask-here-s-why-1.4431897


Here’s Why Vaccinated People Still Need to Wear a Mask
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.html


This is why you will still need to wear a mask after being vaccinated
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/this-is-why-you-will-still-need-to-wear-a-mask-after-being-vaccinated-1.5222206


You’ll Still Need to Wear a Mask After Getting a COVID Vaccine — Here's Why
https://people.com/health/why-still-need-wear-mask-after-getting-covid-vaccine/


Those vaccinated against Covid-19 may still need to wear masks: Here's why
https://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/those-vaccinated-against-covid-19-may-still-need-to-wear-masks-here-s-why-120120900173_1.html


Do I need to wear a mask after I'm vaccinated for COVID-19? Experts weigh in
https://www.today.com/health/do-i-need-wear-mask-after-getting-vaccinated-covid-19-t203241


Why You’ll Still Need To Wear A Mask Even After Covid-19 Vaccines Arrive
https://www.forbes.com/sites/coronavirusfrontlines/2020/10/20/why-youll-still-need-to-wear-a-mask-even-after-covid-19-vaccines-arrive/?sh=50a04f7d5a42


Yes, You’ll Still Need To Wear A Mask After Getting The Coronavirus Vaccine, Experts Say
https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/12/10/yes-youll-still-need-to-wear-a-mask-after-getting-the-coronavirus-vaccine-experts-say/


Yes, the mask stays on after you get vaccinated. Here’s why
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2020/12/10/yes-the-mask-stays-on-after-you-get-vaccinated-heres-why.html


Dr. Fauci says masks, social distancing will still be needed after a Covid-19 vaccine—here’s why
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/16/fauci-why-still-need-masks-social-distancing-after-covid-19-vaccine.html
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14-Dec-2020 23:06:15

NexOrigin

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Two weeks to flatten the curve. Two months to stop the spread. Just until a vaccine is here. Not even after a vaccine is here.

When does the goalpost stop moving?

Everyone has to get a vaccine... but you still have to wear a mask because the vaccine doesn't stop the spread of the virus... it only prevents symptoms of the virus?

Isn't that what an immune system already does?
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14-Dec-2020 23:16:16

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I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but one thing I find super-weird about all this - certainly in the UK, is the fact that all schools are open. Everything else is as locked down as possible.
Except schoolchildren, who are constantly hugging and kissing. Lol. Wtf?

On another note, I'm starting to quite like the lockdown. Good job. Cant seeing all this ending any time soon.

15-Dec-2020 09:34:15

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NexOrigin said :
Two weeks to flatten the curve. Two months to stop the spread. Just until a vaccine is here. Not even after a vaccine is here.

When does the goalpost stop moving?

Everyone has to get a vaccine... but you still have to wear a mask because the vaccine doesn't stop the spread of the virus... it only prevents symptoms of the virus?

Isn't that what an immune system already does?
You sound surprised lol. The introduction of a vaccine isn't going to immediately place us back to normal until it's been widely distributed around the world which we're nowhere near yet.

Hence why comments from Fauci regarding maintaining current measures for most of 2021 even though the vaccine is already starting to be distributed, shouldn't come as a surprise considering it'll probably be towards the backend of 2021 when enough of the world's population has been immunized.
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15-Dec-2020 14:42:11

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NexOrigin said :
Two weeks to flatten the curve. Two months to stop the spread. Just until a vaccine is here. Not even after a vaccine is here.

When does the goalpost stop moving?

Everyone has to get a vaccine... but you still have to wear a mask because the vaccine doesn't stop the spread of the virus... it only prevents symptoms of the virus?

Isn't that what an immune system already does?


did you think just because theres a vaccine, everything will be back to normal asap?/??

thats very silly.

we dont even know how long this vaccine will work for if its only active for 3 weeks or 3 months or 3 years or forever. we dont know because it hasnt been tested for long period of time (impossible to do so)

so yes of course measures are still in place even if youve had it.
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15-Dec-2020 17:42:06

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Megycal said :
A very interesting article about the Oxford vaccine

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55308216
You know what I find interesting about this article?

Teresa Lambe, the scientist in the article, began working on a vaccine on Jan 11th.

On Jan 14th, the WHO announced:
Original message details are unavailable.

Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #ChinaFlag of China.
https://twitter.com/who/status/1217043229427761152


So, while the WHO is telling everyone that there is "no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission", scientists were already working on a human vaccine. Is it normal to begin working on a human vaccine... before it's even determined that a virus can be transmitted between humans?



Tenebri said :

did you think just because theres a vaccine, everything will be back to normal asap?/??

thats very silly.

we dont even know how long this vaccine will work for if its only active for 3 weeks or 3 months or 3 years or forever. we dont know because it hasnt been tested for long period of time (impossible to do so)

so yes of course measures are still in place even if youve had it.
You didn't address either of the two main points I was making, nor did you answer any of the questions I asked. :P
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15-Dec-2020 19:09:57

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Strip club still open while California vows legal action
https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/strip-club-still-open-while-183146554.html


San Diego to fight ruling letting strip clubs stay open
https://apnews.com/article/california-coronavirus-pandemic-san-diego-220f2f6cf8d46a9764578b7c5f5a3a87


Strip clubs in San Diego may stay open while bars and restaurants are closed during COVID, judge decides
https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/press-play-with-madeleine-brand/coronavirus-vaccination-politics-tourism-christmas-music/strip-clubs-san-diego-covid-first-amendment



California Churches Rebranded As Strip Clubs To Dodge COVID-19 Restrictions
https://www.ibtimes.co.in/california-churches-rebranded-strip-clubs-dodge-covid-19-restrictions-831031



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15-Dec-2020 19:14:29

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Icy Spring said :
NexOrigin said :
Theoretically, the vaccine should not present an issue with causing HIV. However, human error along the way could present a serious health concern, considering the source required for the clamping proteins.

From what I understand, the HIV genome is sequenced and well-studied so they just synthesized the gene responsible for producing the protein and inserted it into bacteria, no live virus required. It seems similar to the mechanism through which the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna mRNA vaccines make your muscle cells produce the COVID spike protein.
I couldn't actually find anything really related to the vaccine, in relation to how the clamping proteins were obtained, but I did find an info package for an HIV vaccine trial that basically reiterated the same thing (about synthetically procuring), which is good... as long as it's cheaper and faster to synthetically produce it, there should be no issues in that regard.
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15-Dec-2020 19:59:30

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Kirk Cameron Leads Choir on Traveling Super Spreader Event
https://youtu.be/phGXVg8muOY

^This happening when thousands are dying a day in America; I can't get over the selfishness of these people.

California's has ordered 5 thousand more body bags for San Diego and Los Angeles <- people need to take this seriously...
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16-Dec-2020 13:01:34 - Last edited on 16-Dec-2020 13:28:49 by Dong U Dead

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