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Miles Prower said :
You can't be serious, this has already been provided. Read the Press Release (as previously linked) from Moderna Therapeutics. Straight from the horse's mouth. Sorry if that is not "official" enough for you, although to anybody interested in studying the facts, it would be. To aid you in your studies, here is the link so you can keep track of the vaccine's progress: https://investors.modernatx.com/news-releases Well, there's a difference between "accurate" sources and "official" sources. I've proven countless times that the "official" information that was being pushed was far from "accurate".

While I was busy telling people of all the videos of people being barricaded in their own homes by the Chinese government, literally welding steel bars over people's doors so they could't leave their homes, the World Health Organization was telling people that it wasn't communicable from human to human. While I was trying to open people's eyes up to the fact that China was literally blasting their cities with disinfectant fog, the CDC was telling people that masks don't stop the spread, and NOT to wear them.

Those are "official sources". Those are not "accurate sources".

But now, you want me to accept the word from a pharmaceutical company that stands to profit hundreds of billions of dollars, as "accurate" simply because they are "official"?

I mean, have we forgotten that Bayer literally sold tainted hemophiliac medicine to Europe, knowing that it was tainted, after it was banned from selling it in America for being tainted?

"Offical" doesn't mean much these days, especially when there is a narrative to push, and there are billions of dollars at stake.


Don't simply accept something as "accurate" just because it came from an "official" source. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

07-Dec-2020 02:22:26

Miles Prower said :
Ah, yes, because Fox News has definitely been gracious and accurate in reporting this pandemic, right? You dismissed the accuracy of the article without even reading it.

Miles Prower said :
Totally not responsible for behaviours linked to thousands of deaths. Do you have an example you could provide?

Miles Prower said :
I suspect you either underestimate the influence of the media Not at all. I've seen the way the media has manipulated people over the last few years.

Miles Prower said :
or you just like Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham because they support your narrative. What do you believe "my" narrative is?

Miles Prower said :
Fact is we barely knew anything about this virus several months ago. Scientific advice needed to change as things progressed. No? Maybe you didn't because the media only referred to it as "Covid-19" and not "SARS-CoV-2". But, the scientific community knew far more about this virus than was reported by the media. This isn't the first SARS virus. And as far as masks are concerned, which is quite a point of contention, do you honestly believe that somehow during the course of the year, the scientific community went from believing that masks don't stop the spread of the virus, to believing that they do stop the spread of the virus? Or do you think the "official sources" that are providing this information (such as the CDC and the Surgeon General) weren't presenting accurate information?


Miles Prower said :
It's just a shame that people who have never read a book in their lives like to think they know more than those who study for a living. Who are the "people who have never read a book in their lives"? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

07-Dec-2020 09:16:34

Miles Prower said :
The alleged 'War on Thanksgiving' and failure to condemn actions which obviously contribute to the spread of the virus. Can you link me the video segment please?

Or, are you talking about the whole thing about the police using binoculars to look into the homes of citizens to see if they're having more than 5 people for Thanksgiving dinner?

Miles Prower said :
And yet, you seem to trust this article. I'm pointing out the fact that you dismissed it, and then presented the exact same information that was in the article. It was literally in the title of the article.


Miles Prower said :
Who has claimed that it is the first SARS virus? No one. You claimed " we barely knew anything about this virus several months ago", but, we already knew quite a bit about it before it even hit.


Miles Prower said :
Little was known about the widespread human transmission of SARS-CoV-2, being the cause of COVID-19. Really? Because that's literally what the first doctor in China was saying when he discovered that 8 of his patients had a SARS infection. He was then arrested for "fearmongering". China knew it was spreading from human to human. I knew it was.

You didn't, because the WHO told you:
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Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China🇨🇳.
Meanwhile in China, they were blockading people into their homes, and dragging people off the streets in hazmat suits. China knew. Anyone who was paying attention to all the video footage leaking from China knew. The people who weren't paying attention, were the ones calling the people paying attention "fearmongers" and "conspiracy theorists". I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

07-Dec-2020 11:09:45

Miles Prower said :
As for mask wearing, the initial advice not to wear them was given in the interests of preserving PPE for those who really needed it. Right. So, you believe that at a time when wearing masks could have actually made a difference, the correct course of action for the CDC and the SG was to spread false information? Is that how you're going to play that? That it was important to spread misinformation to the general public?

Miles Prower said :
The West was not prepared the handle this pandemic, so advice regular mask wearing early on could have hindered those in close contact with patients. Why was the West not prepared, in relation to masks? China was. They're were literally buying up mass stocks of PPE from around the world the year upcoming to the outbreak. Which is weird, because they're literally the largest exporter of PPE. And then when the virus was exposed in China, the West was obligated to send their stockpiles of PPE to China (to which China would replace at a later date, with substandard equipment that didn't meet proper health standards).



NexOrigin said :
Miles Prower said :
or you just like Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham because they support your narrative. What do you believe "my" narrative is?
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

07-Dec-2020 11:15:24 - Last edited on 07-Dec-2020 11:17:38 by NexOrigin

07-Dec-2020 12:12:41

Dong U Dead said :
The vaccine is far safer... How do you know? I mean, the vaccine developers don't even know yet. None of them have completed phase 3 trials yet, and some have had to pause their trials to address severe adverse effects that arose during the trials.

I mean, no vaccines are safe for everyone. There will always be people who are seriously debilitated or even die due to vaccines. It happens. It's just a matter of trying to ensure that the number of people it happens to is relatively low. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

07-Dec-2020 12:44:53

Miles Prower said :
We did not know in the very early stages how many cases were a result of asymptomatic transmission. But we did. At least, the people who were paying attention did. The media made sure the rest of you were not paying attention.


Miles Prower said :
That is another reason the guidance around face coverings has changed. Advice should be updated according to data, not feelings. Advice should based on science, not feelings, and not false data from the media. Why do you think the West sent literally billions and billions of masks to China? Why? Why would the West do that, while at the same time, telling people that they weren't effective? If they didn't believe they were effective... then why did China need them all?

Miles Prower said :
Events in China and how the West is handling the pandemic are two separate issues. We had significant warning of how easily the virus transmits, and yet they are among the worst hotspots across the globe. We were not prepared and the general response has been poor. No, what was happening in China in the early days affected the entire world. It's not two separate issues. China was lying about the data. We knew that. We knew that it was spreading from human to human. You were being lied to.

Miles Prower said :
We had significant warning of how easily the virus transmits, Really? Significant warning? Because as I remember it, those who were actually trying to warn everyone early on were called "fearmongers" and "conspiracy theorists". We knew. The media didn't want you to know. By the time you found out, it was already here and spreading.

Miles Prower said :
and yet they are among the worst hotspots across the globe. We were not prepared and the general response has been poor. Yeah, it's almost like shipping covid patients into nursing homes was a bad idea. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

07-Dec-2020 13:07:03