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Megycal
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NexOrigin said :
Megycal said :
She was quite ill in September and although the Covid test was negative I can't help wondering if it was a false negative. That could explain such a strong reaction.
Wouldn't it be the opposite if she had the virus in September? She wouldn't still have anti-bodies, but, she would still have the appropriate T cells.


Why would it be the opposite? If she had covid back in September then the vaccine would have triggered a faster immune respose. A few weeks ago I read that antibodies could still be detected 6 months after infection.

25-Feb-2021 19:17:22

NexOrigin

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Megycal said :
Why would it be the opposite? If she had covid back in September then the vaccine would have triggered a faster immune respose.
A faster immune response should mean less symptoms. That's the whole point of the vaccine, to train your body to produce the needed antibodies so you don't develop symptoms if you're infected. It's a "safer alternative" to gaining immunity from getting the live virus.

Megycal said :
A few weeks ago I read that antibodies could still be detected 6 months after infection.
Yeah, doesn't seem to be much consistency with study results. Some say 8 months, some say 3 months. I guess we'll just have to go with "more than few months, but less than forever" for now. lol
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25-Feb-2021 19:26:17

Megycal
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NexOrigin said :
Megycal said :
Why would it be the opposite? If she had covid back in September then the vaccine would have triggered a faster immune respose.
A faster immune response should mean less symptoms. That's the whole point of the vaccine, to train your body to produce the needed antibodies so you don't develop symptoms if you're infected. It's a "safer alternative" to gaining immunity from getting the live virus.


I just searched "having vaccine after having had covid" and the first result is an article saying vaccine after effects more common in those who had already had Covid possibly indicating a stronger response. This could mean one shot of vaccine may be enough for those people.

25-Feb-2021 19:43:18 - Last edited on 25-Feb-2021 19:43:58 by Megycal

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Megycal said :
I just searched "having vaccine after having had covid" and the first result is an article saying vaccine after effects more common in those who had already had Covid possibly indicating a stronger response. This could mean one shot of vaccine may be enough for those people.
Citation please?
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25-Feb-2021 20:11:44

Megycal
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For some reason I couldn't get the link to copy and paste. Why not enter the same search terms? As I'm in the UK I suppose you might get different first search results
The site is
covid.joinzoe.com then it has >post>vaccine-after-effects-more-common there might be more I can't see
I believe its something to do with an app used to report side effects

25-Feb-2021 20:14:48 - Last edited on 25-Feb-2021 20:20:37 by Megycal

NexOrigin

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Megycal said :
For some reason I couldn't get the link to copy and paste. Why not enter the same search terms? As I'm in the UK I suppose you might get different first search results
I got the same results from both the Canadian and the UK google pages.


Megycal said :
covid.joinzoe.com
I believe its something to do with an app used to report side effects
Thanks, I'll look into it.
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25-Feb-2021 20:17:44 - Last edited on 25-Feb-2021 20:19:32 by NexOrigin

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So you're talking about this:

Original message details are unavailable.

We found that previous exposure to coronavirus makes it more likely that someone will experience systemic effects after vaccination.
https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/covid-vaccine-pfizer-effects


The first result for me, on both the UK and Canadian Google pages is this:
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/should-i-get-the-vaccine-if-ive-already-had-covid-19-and-would-my-side-effects-be-worse/


It states:
Original message details are unavailable.

There’s currently no evidence that having had COVID-19 would make you more or less likely to experience side effects from the vaccine.
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25-Feb-2021 20:22:34 - Last edited on 25-Feb-2021 20:22:57 by NexOrigin

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Megycal said :
covid.joinzoe.com then it has >post>vaccine-after-effects-more-common there might be more I can't see
Ah, okay, found it:

https://covid.joinzoe.com/post/vaccine-after-effects-more-common-in-those-who-already-had-covid

I'll have a look.



Right, so, this isn't an actual medical study with any rigid regulations, it's basically the equivalent of the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) where anyone can upload data without any real verification to the accuracy of the reports.

I'm sure it can be used to try and gather general information about the virus, but, the accuracy of the results will always be in question.
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25-Feb-2021 20:31:02 - Last edited on 25-Feb-2021 20:35:13 by NexOrigin

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