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FiFi LaFeles said :
Why is anyone feeding the troll? Why are you so worried about what my opinion is?

Are you worried that I'm not complying? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

22-Feb-2021 19:06:03

Joel said :
You're right, new strains are now within the country, but that doesn't change the fact that this is something to battle on multiple fronts, one is community spread (you referenced Walmart) whereby local measures are in place to minimize spread in those settings (e.g PPE, limited capacity), another is trying to prevent infections continuing to enter the country from abroad. The local spread is far greater than the spread as a result from incoming travelers. That's what's worrying. If they're willing to set up covid camps for incoming travelers... whom can't get on a plane in any major airline without a negative covid test from the prior 3 days... keep that in mind... than what makes you think they won't start doing that to the general public where the spread is far greater?


Joel said :
People are allowed outside even in stay-at-home orders, to exercise, pick up groceries and so on so not sure what your point is here. Right, sure, and, well, it's not like you would be arrested or fined thousands of dollars if some cop doesn't believe you're within a 6km radius of your house, or they don't believe you're outside for "essential" reasons, such as exercise, groceries, etc., or not wearing a mask, right?

Health inspector begged for haircut, then ticketed the barber

https://youtu.be/Q5z0hjS87ok

Police Officer Threatens Prison Time for Not Wearing Mask

https://youtu.be/TyYniyiHdUg

They wouldn't arrest you for going to church or anything like that either... would they?

Of course not, the courts would stop that:

B.C. judge tosses Dr. Bonnie’s injunction bid to arrest churchgoers

https://youtu.be/DmUGvrvp8Tg

So instead they'd arrest the pastor for daring to open his church:

UPDATE: Pastor James Coates behind bars after church defies lockdown

https://youtu.be/NW5HMKcTwEY

I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

22-Feb-2021 19:49:38

Joel said :
I know you like to use harsh language for situations which hardly call for it Sometimes the truth is harsh. That's reality.

Joel said :
I'd be willing to bet money you'd be just as harsh and just as critical of such a measure had it been implemented last year when arguably it would have been more effective, so in that instance it's a lose lose. . No, when I was telling people "we need to shut down travel" back in the beginning of January of last year, people called me a fear monger and accused me of promoting wild conspiracy theories about this deadly virus from china.

I've been critical of the choices the governments have made ever since. When something could have been done, nothing was done because certain people decided to take advantage of the situation for political reasons. It's been a shit show ever since then.



Joel said :
This hotel measure is not really that different from imposing self-isolation measures on people if they show symptoms, test positive or arrive from abroad which has been the case up to now. So were those measures too far? Or is it the fact that now its a hotel, not your home that's a step too far? In the covid camps, you're not allowed to order food, you HAVE to eat the food that is being provided, because "other food sources might be contaminated". If all they bring you is a slice of bread, some jam, and an orange, that's all you're eating for the next six hours, regardless of how hungry you may be.

How is that the same as self-isolating at home?

In Ontario, if you want to self-isolate at home instead of the covid camps, you have to pay for that privilege. If you don't have thousands of dollars to spare, you don't get to go home.

Because somehow the $1000 prevents you from spreading the virus?

No, of course not, they just want to force you into compliance, by whatever means they can. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

22-Feb-2021 19:58:28

NexOrigin said :
when I was telling people "we need to shut down travel" back in the beginning of January of last year, people called me a fear monger and accused me of promoting wild conspiracy theories Joel said :
Fear-monger Yep.

This entire time, everything I predict, people call me a fear monger, and then months later they're like "hey, guess what I just learned!" and then repeat what they called me a fear monger for saying.

People made claims of wild conspiracy theories when I brought up vitamin D early on last year. And now, oh, guess what, all the medical evidence points to vitamin D deficiencies.

You called me a conspiracy theorist when I mentioned the great reset, and yet, there is Trudeau, giving a speech about how the pandemic is "an opportunity for a great reset".



At what point would you take a stand against the actions the government would take in the name of this pandemic?


Like, what would be your breaking point where you would stand up and say "Hey, this isn't right"?


Would it be peering into your windows to see if you have guests over in order to extort thousands of dollars from you?

Police allegedly peer through window, issue fines for illegal dinner gathering

https://youtu.be/HRYO_Bo5MU8

What line would they have to cross before you took a stand? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

22-Feb-2021 20:32:39

Megycal said :
I've heard that the quarantine hotels in England cater to dietary requirements so that implies there's a choice. However it doesn't include only having organic food which is fair enough. That's not a requirement that's a preference, unlike a diabetic or someone with coeliac disease. To be fair, the "slice of bread, jam, and an orange" example that I'm using was the "vegan option" at the Radisson in Toronto. That was the "catering to dietary requirements" they provided. lol. I don't have faith that any of these hotels are serving a 5 star meal, but, I would expect that anything has to be better than a slice of bread, jam, and an orange. The orange was, however, an organic orange, to be fair. Or at least, that's what they were told. Not sure if there's a way to verify if an orange is organic or not. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

22-Feb-2021 20:37:12

22-Feb-2021 20:53:46