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Joel
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I think the thing to remember is, only if you choose to travel against the current advice are you going to be in a situation where you're quarantined in a hotel. Nobody is snatching people from homes to do this against their will. You choose to travel, that is part of the choice of travelling right now so really, you're making a conscious choice to do this.

It's hardly a surprise for anyone that's being sprung on them upon arrival somewhere lol.

This should have been done last year, why it's taken them nearly a year to introduce this is ridiculous.
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22-Feb-2021 17:57:17

NexOrigin

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FiFi LaFeles said :
No doubt the contamination level will skyrocket again in a few months but I doubt there'll be another lockdown here.
Is there any evidence to show that the lockdowns have any affect of slowing the spread of the virus?


There is this study here that aims to discover this very question:
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Background and Aims
The most restrictive nonpharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) for controlling the spread of COVID-19 are mandatory sta-at-home and business closures. Given the consequences of these policies, it is important to assess their effects. We evaluate the effects on epidemic case growth of more restrictive NPIs (mrNPIs), above and beyond those of less-restrictive NPIs (lrNPIs).


And, well... the results show a very minimal impact:
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Conclusions
While small benefits cannot be excluded, we do not find significant benefits on case growth of more restrictive NPIs. Similar reductions in case growth may be achievable with less-restrictive interventions.
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/eci.13484


So, if lockdown restrictions are having a minimal affect, then isn't it good news that they won't employing lockdown restrictions?





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22-Feb-2021 18:04:30 - Last edited on 22-Feb-2021 18:06:40 by NexOrigin

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Joel said :
I think the thing to remember is, only if you choose to travel against the current advice are you going to be in a situation where you're quarantined in a hotel.
COMPLY with advice or be imprisoned.

Joel said :
Nobody is snatching people from homes to do this against their will.
No, of course not, because you're allowed to quarantine inside your home, legally. But, they will come to your house, and issue you fines for thousands of dollars for not going to the quarantine hotel.

Joel said :
You choose to travel, that is part of the choice of travelling right now so really, you're making a conscious choice to do this.
And people who chose to go outside when the government has said they are not "essential"? Should those people should be interned in covid camps because they chose to go outside?






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22-Feb-2021 18:19:19

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Let's see. Every time a country ( England in my case ) has gone into lockdown the infection rate has dropped. This happened even before anyone was vaccinated... so does it work? I think the answer has to be yes.
edit to add. Keep calling it internment if you want but I'll keep calling it what is is...quarantine.

definition from the Oxford dictionary
noun
noun: quarantine; plural noun: quarantines

a state, period, or place of isolation in which people or animals that have arrived from elsewhere or been exposed to infectious or contagious disease are placed.

22-Feb-2021 18:44:03 - Last edited on 22-Feb-2021 18:49:31 by Megycal

Joel
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Again, this hotel quarantining order is no secret, advance warning was given that this was going to be implemented today (as far as Canada is concerned) so any decision to travel abroad right now is also a decision to stay in a hotel for a specified amount of time as set out by that given country, whether it be Canada, UK and any others adopting this measure.

At the very least it could act as a deterrent for anybody looking to travel for non-essential reasons which isn't a bad thing.

No good trying to fight community spread if you're not also fighting against cases also entering the country.

Like I said, this should have been done last year.
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22-Feb-2021 18:53:33

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Megycal said :
Let's see. Every time a country ( England in my case ) has gone into lockdown the infection rate has dropped. This happened even before anyone was vaccinated... so does it work? I think the answer has to be yes.
Citation please?

Megycal said :
edit to add. Keep calling it internment if you want but I'll keep calling it what is is...quarantine.
Keep calling it quarantine if you want but I'll keep calling it what is is...internment. ;)





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22-Feb-2021 18:55:20

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Joel said :
Like I said, this should have been done last year.
Yeah, but it wasn't, and now the "new strains" have already worked their way into the general population, so there's no point to it now, is there? You're not going to keep the strains out with quarantines, since they're already here, and returning from another country presents no further danger to infection than going to Walmart.


Joel said :
At the very least it could act as a deterrent for anybody looking to travel for non-essential reasons which isn't a bad thing.
And people who go outside without permission from the government? I guess it'll act as a deterrent for anyone else not willing to COMPLY if they start filling up the covid camps with people who have violated stay-at-home orders, right?

Would you go along with that ideology? At what point would you be willing to stand up and say "that's not right"?






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22-Feb-2021 19:01:03

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