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Joel
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@Nex,
That's it though isn't it, the reality is, making people who travel (who shouldn't be travelling) spend a few days in a hotel while extra testing is carried out, for the benefit of the wider community and country as a whole hardly warrants the harsh language you seem to be adopting to push this harsher tone narrative (hilariously, you're usually the one bringing up narratives). There's no additional testing, other than taking your temperature.
If you have money, you don't have to stay in the covid camps. You can just pay the fine for not going there. It's not about "the benefit of the wider community and country as a whole" if a simple payment can bypass it, is it? If it were for the benefit of everyone else, there wouldn't be an option to pay your way out of it, would there? Or does money somehow prevent the spread of the virus?
Joel said :
You pull things out of context with references to the 'great reset' as another example, to make it out to be something it's not. How did I take it out of context? I've repeatedly stated that it's the things beyond the virus that worry me the most. You ask what that is. I explain it's referencing the great reset, and am labeled a conspiracy theorist, so I explicitly display a video of Trudeau explaining that the pandemic "is an opportunity for a great reset". Rather than accept that your government has something else in mind, you claim I'm taking it out of context. Your cognitive dissonance won't let you admit that your government is using the pandemic for their own personal political purposes. Instead, you have to claim I "pull things out of context" in order to "make it something that's not"... even when the evidence is served up directly to you. Your prime minister literally confirmed what I was claiming, but you're refusing to admit it.
I can back up any claim I make with a citation. If you need a citation, ask. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
@Nex,
That's it though isn't it, the reality is, making people who travel (who shouldn't be travelling) spend a few days in a hotel while extra testing is carried out, for the benefit of the wider community and country as a whole hardly warrants the harsh language you seem to be adopting to push this harsher tone narrative (hilariously, you're usually the one bringing up narratives). There's no additional testing, other than taking your temperature.
If you have money, you don't have to stay in the covid camps. You can just pay the fine for not going there. It's not about "the benefit of the wider community and country as a whole" if a simple payment can bypass it, is it? If it were for the benefit of everyone else, there wouldn't be an option to pay your way out of it, would there? Or does money somehow prevent the spread of the virus?
Joel said :
You pull things out of context with references to the 'great reset' as another example, to make it out to be something it's not. How did I take it out of context? I've repeatedly stated that it's the things beyond the virus that worry me the most. You ask what that is. I explain it's referencing the great reset, and am labeled a conspiracy theorist, so I explicitly display a video of Trudeau explaining that the pandemic "is an opportunity for a great reset". Rather than accept that your government has something else in mind, you claim I'm taking it out of context. Your cognitive dissonance won't let you admit that your government is using the pandemic for their own personal political purposes. Instead, you have to claim I "pull things out of context" in order to "make it something that's not"... even when the evidence is served up directly to you. Your prime minister literally confirmed what I was claiming, but you're refusing to admit it.
I can back up any claim I make with a citation. If you need a citation, ask. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
22-Feb-2021 21:11:15
Joel
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And in these cases, as far as I'm aware, this isn't tax-funded - those who chose to travel and then need to stay in a hotel for a few nights as per the new measures are paying for that which I assume the cost of food is included. Citation please? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
And in these cases, as far as I'm aware, this isn't tax-funded - those who chose to travel and then need to stay in a hotel for a few nights as per the new measures are paying for that which I assume the cost of food is included. Citation please? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
22-Feb-2021 21:13:26
PM, health officials warn Canadians against believing COVID-19 'internment camps' disinformation
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Disinformation campaign falsely suggests Canadians will be forcibly sent to quarantine sites
John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2020 3:17 PM ET
Canadians will not be forced into COVID-19 internment or containment camps, a spokesperson for Health Minister Patty Hajdu said Tuesday — taking aim at a disinformation campaign that has been circulating on social media for weeks.
That's right! They're hotels! Not camps! COMPLY!
Trudeau warns Canadians not to believe COVID-19 ‘internment camps’ rumours
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau warned Canadians on Tuesday not to believe and spread “harmful misinformation” and conspiracy theories that the federal government is preparing internment camps to limit the spread of COVID They're isolation centers, not internment camps! COMPLY!
"Don't worry, we won't do this"
Then they do it.
But don't worry, they're calling it something different, so, that makes it different, right?
It's not a "camp" because it's in a "hotel", so, it's a "vacation" (see how that works?). It's nothing more than word games to justify what they claimed they wouldn't be doing, but are now doing, they're just calling it something else.
They're not jails, you're just not allowed to leave, or have any visitors, or open the door other than when you're told to open the door for meals and temperature checks.
Is it any wonder that they're trying to conceal the locations of these "isolation centers" in Canada, when they've already claimed that they wouldn't be setting them up? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-internment-camps-disinformation-1.5769592
Original message details are unavailable.
Disinformation campaign falsely suggests Canadians will be forcibly sent to quarantine sites
John Paul Tasker · CBC News · Posted: Oct 20, 2020 3:17 PM ET
Canadians will not be forced into COVID-19 internment or containment camps, a spokesperson for Health Minister Patty Hajdu said Tuesday — taking aim at a disinformation campaign that has been circulating on social media for weeks.
That's right! They're hotels! Not camps! COMPLY!
Trudeau warns Canadians not to believe COVID-19 ‘internment camps’ rumours
https://www.rcinet.ca/en/2020/10/21/trudeau-warns-canadians-not-to-believe-covid-19-internment-camps-rumours/
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau warned Canadians on Tuesday not to believe and spread “harmful misinformation” and conspiracy theories that the federal government is preparing internment camps to limit the spread of COVID They're isolation centers, not internment camps! COMPLY!
"Don't worry, we won't do this"
Then they do it.
But don't worry, they're calling it something different, so, that makes it different, right?
It's not a "camp" because it's in a "hotel", so, it's a "vacation" (see how that works?). It's nothing more than word games to justify what they claimed they wouldn't be doing, but are now doing, they're just calling it something else.
They're not jails, you're just not allowed to leave, or have any visitors, or open the door other than when you're told to open the door for meals and temperature checks.
Is it any wonder that they're trying to conceal the locations of these "isolation centers" in Canada, when they've already claimed that they wouldn't be setting them up? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
22-Feb-2021 21:42:41
Joel
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Sure, if you have up to $750,000 that you're willing to pay, as well as up to 6 months in prison. That's if you're not found to have cause harm or death to another person as a result of not isolating, in which case, the fine is up to $1m and 3 years in prison. Citation please?
Joel said :
We've already been over this 'reset' topic. Many seem to think it's some great conspiracy of something bigger going on, like Covid was planned all along, there's this higher, greater plan to control human civilization and so on. To reference it in such sinister terms and then provide a 'citation' of a leader saying it as some sort of proof of its more conspiratorial context is ridiculous, because your 'citation' does not have it mentioned in the same sort of sinister way, the context is completely different. Agenda 21 is not a conspiracy theory. It's the UN's literal agenda. That's the great reset that Trudeau and other world leaders that belong to the UN have been talking about. It's not a conspiracy theory.
Joel said :
like how in your posts above you say "your government", "your prime minister" when I know that you know I live in Canada. Yeah, it's almost like I'm highlighting the fact that this stuff is happening in YOUR country. These are things that YOU as a Canadian should know about. These are things that directly will affect YOU. This is what I'm trying to highlight.
I don't need to highlight it to myself, I already know. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
Sure, if you have up to $750,000 that you're willing to pay, as well as up to 6 months in prison. That's if you're not found to have cause harm or death to another person as a result of not isolating, in which case, the fine is up to $1m and 3 years in prison. Citation please?
Joel said :
We've already been over this 'reset' topic. Many seem to think it's some great conspiracy of something bigger going on, like Covid was planned all along, there's this higher, greater plan to control human civilization and so on. To reference it in such sinister terms and then provide a 'citation' of a leader saying it as some sort of proof of its more conspiratorial context is ridiculous, because your 'citation' does not have it mentioned in the same sort of sinister way, the context is completely different. Agenda 21 is not a conspiracy theory. It's the UN's literal agenda. That's the great reset that Trudeau and other world leaders that belong to the UN have been talking about. It's not a conspiracy theory.
https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/content/documents/Agenda21.pdf
Joel said :
like how in your posts above you say "your government", "your prime minister" when I know that you know I live in Canada. Yeah, it's almost like I'm highlighting the fact that this stuff is happening in YOUR country. These are things that YOU as a Canadian should know about. These are things that directly will affect YOU. This is what I'm trying to highlight.
I don't need to highlight it to myself, I already know. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
22-Feb-2021 21:50:44
Joel
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You ask for a citation regarding hotels, what is it you're after exactly? It's fairly public knowledge that those who travel have to book a hotel upon return at their own expense, that expense being to cover the cost of their stay and has been widely reported, the cost of their food so not sure why you're asking for a citation for this. Cite me the source for that information. I'm assuming that because this a government regulation, that you will be able to cite a government source for this information. It's "fairly public knowledge" so I'm sure you'll have no problem with that.
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The only thing I'm not 100% on is if anything is subsidized by the government but I've not seen any reporting on this and based on the cost someone has to pay for the hotel, seems unlikely. Unsubstantiated claims, hmmmm? lol
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
You ask for a citation regarding hotels, what is it you're after exactly? It's fairly public knowledge that those who travel have to book a hotel upon return at their own expense, that expense being to cover the cost of their stay and has been widely reported, the cost of their food so not sure why you're asking for a citation for this. Cite me the source for that information. I'm assuming that because this a government regulation, that you will be able to cite a government source for this information. It's "fairly public knowledge" so I'm sure you'll have no problem with that.
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The only thing I'm not 100% on is if anything is subsidized by the government but I've not seen any reporting on this and based on the cost someone has to pay for the hotel, seems unlikely. Unsubstantiated claims, hmmmm? lol
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
22-Feb-2021 21:53:07
NexOrigin
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Joel said :
You ask for a citation regarding hotels, what is it you're after exactly? It's fairly public knowledge that those who travel have to book a hotel upon return at their own expense, that expense being to cover the cost of their stay and has been widely reported, the cost of their food so not sure why you're asking for a citation for this. Cite me the source for that information. I'm assuming that because this a government regulation, that you will be able to cite a government source for this information. It's "fairly public knowledge" so I'm sure you'll have no problem with that.
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The only thing I'm not 100% on is if anything is subsidized by the government but I've not seen any reporting on this and based on the cost someone has to pay for the hotel, seems unlikely. Unsubstantiated claims, hmmmm? lol
"Costs of these hotel stopovers may vary by location. The price will include costs associated with the:
- food
- room
- security
- transportation
- infection prevention and control measures"
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Joel said :
You ask for a citation regarding hotels, what is it you're after exactly? It's fairly public knowledge that those who travel have to book a hotel upon return at their own expense, that expense being to cover the cost of their stay and has been widely reported, the cost of their food so not sure why you're asking for a citation for this. Cite me the source for that information. I'm assuming that because this a government regulation, that you will be able to cite a government source for this information. It's "fairly public knowledge" so I'm sure you'll have no problem with that.
Original message details are unavailable.
The only thing I'm not 100% on is if anything is subsidized by the government but I've not seen any reporting on this and based on the cost someone has to pay for the hotel, seems unlikely. Unsubstantiated claims, hmmmm? lol
https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/latest-travel-health-advice/mandatory-hotel-stay-air-travellers/list-government-authorized-hotels-booking.html#a1
"Costs of these hotel stopovers may vary by location. The price will include costs associated with the:
- food
- room
- security
- transportation
- infection prevention and control measures"
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22-Feb-2021 22:06:51
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