NexOrigin
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And I explained my reasoning. Just because you disagree with my reasoning, doesn't make me a fear monger, or a conspiracy theorist. It just means you don't agree with me.
You can make up a reason for just about anything. People have their reasons to think that the Earth is flat, doesn’t make it anymore accurate or correct.
NexOrigin
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You would know exactly who is infected, and who isn't, and those who are infected could be properly quarantined. What other purpose do you believe it could serve, other than a more accurate listing of who is infected?
Ok, so if there was ever an intention to mandate this in such a way, to control us, why not at a more critical time which would give them more justification, say last April/May/June? Or November/December/Last month? Not when we’re starting vaccine roll-outs which is the main way out of this? So again, not exactly logical is it?
NexOrigin
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Except if you want to travel. Then it's mandated. In a few months it might be "if you want non-essential businesses and services to reopen". It's always little by little by little. And they always claim it's "just temporary”.
Exactly, not mandated for everyone, only those who choose to ignore guidelines and continue to travel or those who need to travel for essential reasons, and only now has that been imposed as a result of recent spikes in cases and deaths, so hardly unjustified?
NexOrigin
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The Quebec curfew is unconstitutional. It literally violates Canada's constitution. But they're doing it anyways, regardless of the lawsuits that are now pending. They're violating constitutional rights, and they're getting away with it. Even though there's no science behind the curfew.
Not getting into the legalities of curfews - As I said in the context of Ontario, there’s data to suggest the frequency and times people are moving about and not staying home.
If there’s reason to believe (with data backing it up) people are more likely to gather in homes during the evening after work and that was potentially contributing to the spread, then maybe that formed part of their decision to implement a curfew. Why didn’t Ontario? If there was a higher plan to control us? Ontario didn’t because as I mentioned, indicators have shown that people here are now listening and staying home, rendering the need for an enforceable curfew unnecessary.
NexOrigin
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There are so many restrictions that have no basis in science at all.
For example, in Ontario you can only have 25 people on a public skating rink at once. However, that's only if you're NOT playing hockey. Hockey for some reason, has been banned from all public skating rinks. (except if you're a politician, then you can rent the entire rink for you and your buddies).
Perhaps because 25 at a skating rink (is it outdoors?) just simply skating around, keeping distance from one another is slightly different than hockey… which is a contact sport, therefore closer proximity to one another - logic.
Not sure what limits are being placed on supermarkets but I believe a lot are at either 50% or 25% capacity and plus, people need to get food and you’re mandated to wear a mask while inside.
In a restaurant, you’re sat in close proximity to your group, not required to wear a mask when sitting so therefore you could argue the risk is higher.
NexOrigin
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The difference is that the anal swabbing is literally happening, just not here yet. The microchips don't exist at all. You're trying to conflate things with a comparison that isn't apt.
It’s happening, but where? What country? China? So that mean its automatically possible to happen here? Or the US, or UK? Is it mandated for everyone or widely used? Vaccine microchipping a step too far then I guess? It has about as much reasoning as expecting to be forced to have your backend checked regularly for Covid.
Literally, all of these things, you say you’re a logic orientated person but your anal swabbing remarks, mask mandate remarks and some of the others listed above, just simply lack logic and are more in line with paranoia and unnecessary speculation. There are definitely certain rules which we could question (your sock example earlier was a fine one) but most of the above does have some sense of logic to it and doesn’t immediately point to the explanation that we’re being taken over & controlled for the sake of it.
As Fifi said, it’s all getting a bit tinfoil hat and extremely far fetched.
Joel
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NexOrigin
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And I explained my reasoning. Just because you disagree with my reasoning, doesn't make me a fear monger, or a conspiracy theorist. It just means you don't agree with me.
You can make up a reason for just about anything.
Sure, but I'm backing up my reasons with verifiable facts. Like I said, I'm willing to cite a source for any claims I make. I'm not just arbitrarily making claims with nothing to back them up with.
Joel
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Ok, so if there was ever an intention to mandate this in such a way, to control us, why not at a more critical time which would give them more justification, say last April/May/June? Or November/December/Last month? Not when we’re starting vaccine roll-outs which is the main way out of this? So again, not exactly logical is it?
So when I ask why things such as lockdowns, mandatory mask orders, etc., were not done at a more critical time, the response I get is "the science changed". But now here you are, presenting the same the same argument that I have been presenting, and calling it illogical, just as I claimed it was illogical to advocate against masks at a critical time.
What if I simply said "the science changed", as is the response I have been given?
Joel
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Exactly, not mandated for everyone, only those who choose to ignore guidelines and continue to travel or those who need to travel for essential reasons, and only now has that been imposed as a result of recent spikes in cases and deaths, so hardly unjustified?
If the number of cases keep spiking in the general population, regardless of lockdown measures, etc., would you feel that mandatory testing for the general population was justified?
I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
ToP BaSS
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This reminds me of a person arguing with themselves in a locked room with unlimited access to nothing but conspiracy theory websites -lol.
What a life
I feel bad for enjoying the entertainment aspect of these types