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Power does what it wants.
Power does what it wants, and now they're just more naked about it.
Now they just put it right out front and say "This is what we're doing to you, folks".

- George Carlin I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

01-Feb-2021 18:05:01 - Last edited on 01-Feb-2021 18:05:30 by NexOrigin

Yeah, when cognitive dissonance kicks in, it's easier to simply say "fear mongering" and "conspiracy theory" than it is to consider what is being said.

I totally understand it. I don't agree with it, but, I understand it, and hopefully some day you'll see things for what they really are.

I know it's hard for people to believe that their own governments could potentially do things against their own people. But, that's why the saying is "those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it".

You only have to look to the past to see the horrific things governments have done to their own citizens. That doesn't include what governments have done to other country's citizens.

And in so many cases, the citizens simply went along with what was happening, to a certain degree until they finally cracked and spoke out about it.


Take these orders, from New York regarding infected patients being sent to nursing homes, for example:
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"No resident shall be denied re-admission or admission to the NH solely based on a confirmed or suspected diagnosis of COVID-19."
People spoke out about that, yet, the government went along with it and thousands of people directly died because of it.

No one in their right mind should be advocating that covid infected patients should be sent to nursing homes.

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"NHs are prohibited from requiring a hospitalized resident who is determined medically stable to be tested for COVID-19 prior to admission or readmission."
Not only did they force nursing homes to accept infected patients, they specifically prohibiting the nursing homes from even testing returning patients for covid.

Was he really that incompetent? Or was there something else driving this?

I mean, what was the purpose of prohibiting any testing?

https://skillednursingnews.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/4/2020/03/DOH_COVID19__NHAdmissionsReadmissions__032520_1585166684475_0.pdf

I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

01-Feb-2021 19:15:38

Dadizar said :
Mistakes were made when we did not have as much knowledge as we do now. This was not within the first few days, or the first few weeks. This was on March 23rd. Italy had already been in lockdown for weeks at this point. The knowledge was already there. Italy had been warning the rest of the world for over a month before those orders went into place, as they were hit hard early on, and knew how quickly it spread, and whom was vulnerable.


Dadizar said :
Continuing to harp on mistakes from the early days of the pandemic are not at all helpful. Maybe not to apologists, but, then again, maybe at some point even the most hardcore apologist will realize that there's more going on that what they're being told.

Dadizar said :
Scientific knowledge increases with time and research. The problem wasn't that there wasn't scientific knowledge at that time, there was. The problem was that the science was simply ignored in so many places.

Dadizar said :
Learn and grow. Being stuck in the past does not help anyone (especially this thread.) Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.

People ask for evidence. I provide it. And now you're complaining that I'm providing the evidence that people asked for.

It's so ironic that you say "Learn and grow" while simply dismissing things you don't agree with as "conspiracy theory" . I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

01-Feb-2021 19:49:54

America passes covid relief bill.

$10 million is allocated to "gender studies" in Pakistan, because that's covid relief?

There are so many things attached to the covid relief bill, it's not funny. In order to get the covid relief, the entire bill needed to be passed. The entire bill was worth over $2.3 trillion dollars. Only $800 million of that was for covid relief. The rest went to things completely unrelated to covid, such as the gender studies in Pakistan, monitoring climate change in Tibet, investigating race riots that happened in the early 1900's... because covid?

Oh, and it made illegally streaming a felony, because covid.


That bill was over 5,000 pages, and they only had two hours to review it before voting on it.

"You want citizens to have their money? You have to vote for this bill, without reading it"

Nothing nefarious going on there, eh? lol I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

01-Feb-2021 20:07:24

Dadizar said :
I have read and thought about the entire Agenda 21 document, have you, or have you been told what to think by your information sources? You think I would be advocating against something I haven't read? I read it years ago. I brought it up on these very forums. I expressed my concerns with it, as Trudeau was getting ready to sign the UN migration pact.

I explained how the UN required countries to control the media to remove negative views about immigration. Guess what happened a few months later? Oh, that's right, the Trudeau government announced that they would be releasing an "approved list" of media outlets that would be getting a billion dollars in "media bailout" funding. The government now controls those media outlets.

The Trudeau government also attempted to give themselves unlimited, unvetted financial and tax powers over all of Canada, without having to pass anything through congress by adding a short provision at the end of their covid relief bill. Luckily, the bill wasn't 5000 pages long that was needed to be voted on in two hours, so people saw the provision in the bill, and spoke out against it, and it was removed.

My information sources are coming from the people who are attempting to do these things, not some random conspiracy theory website. I read these things. That's why I'm concerned about them.

When people don't bother taking notice, or stop taking notice, that's when nefarious things happen. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!

01-Feb-2021 20:21:26