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Megycal
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Pfizer is not the only "kid" on the block. We also have the Oxford vaccine that only needs a normal fridge temperature, not even in a freezer, so our GP surgeries are perfectly capable of administering that vaccine. Some may say the Pfizer one is better with higher protection %age But as its so delicate and volatile I'd prefer the Oxford one ( given a choice) because I'd be more confidant it hadn't gone off. 62% effective for the Oxford, vs. 95% effective for the Pfizer. That's a huge difference.
Oxford was claiming 90% before they got approval. Things apparently have changed now that there some scrutiny, and it's nowhere near 90%. It's 62%. That's a pretty drastic change.
I'm not so sure I would trust some monkey vaccine, when the company making it is obviously not being transparent with the evidence and data. They won't even release the data on how many vaccines they have shipped or administered in the UK for "security reasons".
Like, somehow the number of vaccines this company has delivered, is a "security issue"?
That's sketchy. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
Pfizer is not the only "kid" on the block. We also have the Oxford vaccine that only needs a normal fridge temperature, not even in a freezer, so our GP surgeries are perfectly capable of administering that vaccine. Some may say the Pfizer one is better with higher protection %age But as its so delicate and volatile I'd prefer the Oxford one ( given a choice) because I'd be more confidant it hadn't gone off. 62% effective for the Oxford, vs. 95% effective for the Pfizer. That's a huge difference.
Oxford was claiming 90% before they got approval. Things apparently have changed now that there some scrutiny, and it's nowhere near 90%. It's 62%. That's a pretty drastic change.
I'm not so sure I would trust some monkey vaccine, when the company making it is obviously not being transparent with the evidence and data. They won't even release the data on how many vaccines they have shipped or administered in the UK for "security reasons".
Like, somehow the number of vaccines this company has delivered, is a "security issue"?
That's sketchy. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
18-Jan-2021 12:48:20
The confusion surrounding the Oxford vaccine is a bit alarming. What also bothers me is the fact that initially we were told all vaccines required a second dose no later than 21 days later.
We will now not be getting second doses until 12 weeks later due to not enough supplies, assuming we even get a second dose at all
Everything seems so very haphazard.
We will now not be getting second doses until 12 weeks later due to not enough supplies, assuming we even get a second dose at all
Everything seems so very haphazard.
Le Chat Guerrier
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18-Jan-2021 13:10:32
FiFi LaFeles
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Yes, I've seen bits in the Press about left-over vaccines being randomly administered.
There was a slight scandal a few days ago when it appears the NHS instructed that these should be thrown away - then apparently recanted and said that vaccine holders should have a list prepared of people who could be contacted to attend at short notice.
Wide Boys have already stepped in to the supply of "vaccines". An elderly lady was visited at her home by a piece of filth claiming to be from the NHS with her vaccine and charged something in the order of £70 for it "which could be reclaimed from the NHS when she gets the letter".
Poor old cow fell for it. The bastard even injected her with Christ knows what.
I read that he charged her £160 and then went back a few days later for another £100. Of course it could be a victim of someone else. I don't know how those callous scammers can sleep at night.
Yes, I've seen bits in the Press about left-over vaccines being randomly administered.
There was a slight scandal a few days ago when it appears the NHS instructed that these should be thrown away - then apparently recanted and said that vaccine holders should have a list prepared of people who could be contacted to attend at short notice.
Wide Boys have already stepped in to the supply of "vaccines". An elderly lady was visited at her home by a piece of filth claiming to be from the NHS with her vaccine and charged something in the order of £70 for it "which could be reclaimed from the NHS when she gets the letter".
Poor old cow fell for it. The bastard even injected her with Christ knows what.
I read that he charged her £160 and then went back a few days later for another £100. Of course it could be a victim of someone else. I don't know how those callous scammers can sleep at night.
18-Jan-2021 13:13:15
FiFi LaFeles
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The confusion surrounding the Oxford vaccine is a bit alarming. What also bothers me is the fact that initially we were told all vaccines required a second dose no later than 21 days later.
We will now not be getting second doses until 12 weeks later due to not enough supplies, assuming we even get a second dose at all
Everything seems so very haphazard.
Some people in the Oxford trial did have longer gaps than 21 days and my son said he'd read that the longer gaps were those that had higher %age effectiveness. I don't know where he read that.
The confusion surrounding the Oxford vaccine is a bit alarming. What also bothers me is the fact that initially we were told all vaccines required a second dose no later than 21 days later.
We will now not be getting second doses until 12 weeks later due to not enough supplies, assuming we even get a second dose at all
Everything seems so very haphazard.
Some people in the Oxford trial did have longer gaps than 21 days and my son said he'd read that the longer gaps were those that had higher %age effectiveness. I don't know where he read that.
18-Jan-2021 13:15:10
Stoat King
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"AstraZeneca stressed that the data are preliminary, rather than full and final - which is true for the reported Pfizer and Moderna jab results too. It is science by press release."
Original message details are unavailable.
Further, a vaccine candidate developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University which is already in use in the UK is expected to report
Guess which countries are the guinea pigs for the trials? Think about it. Those countries approved a vaccine that had no trial data to prove it's safety and efficacy. That company will use the data gathered in those countries after giving the vaccinations to the general public, to formulate the trial data that will be presented to the US for approval. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
"AstraZeneca stressed that the data are preliminary, rather than full and final - which is true for the reported Pfizer and Moderna jab results too. It is science by press release."
Original message details are unavailable.
Further, a vaccine candidate developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University which is already in use in the UK is expected to report
trial data
in
February
. If it is favorable, that could bring two more vaccines online in the US.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/15/us-covid-january-bleak-vaccination-rollout-falters
Guess which countries are the guinea pigs for the trials? Think about it. Those countries approved a vaccine that had no trial data to prove it's safety and efficacy. That company will use the data gathered in those countries after giving the vaccinations to the general public, to formulate the trial data that will be presented to the US for approval. I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
18-Jan-2021 13:30:34
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