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Averia Light

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I'm trying to discuss gaming profile/accounts on a gaming profile/accounts thread, yes. I tried to get the topic back that way and was accused of moving the goalposts, so I'm not really sure what you want to discuss, tbh. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

04-May-2023 21:26:10 - Last edited on 04-May-2023 21:27:38 by Averia Light

Origin Nexus

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I know it's a thread about profiles and accounts, I read the opening post, but then you claimed:
Averia Light said :
The thread literally had and has been discussing gaming profiles
and the fact that it is a marketing gimmick
, lol. The OP clearly states it as well as the thread title.

The opening post makes no mention of "marketing gimmick", which is a different discussion altogether than a thread about parents deleting game accounts/profiles.

This is what is confusing me. The only mention you made about "marketing gimmick" was on page 5, but then you claimed on page 6 that the thread was specifically about how game accounts/profiles were a "marketing gimmick".

But then you didn't update the OP to reflect those statements, you just re-iterated that the thread is about game accounts/profiles.

Is the thread about game accounts/profiles and parents deleting them as punishment, or is the thread about how game accounts/profiles are a "marketing gimmick"?

04-May-2023 21:32:29

Averia Light

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Averia Light said :
Origin Nexus said :
I've seen horror stories of parents on the internet posting about how they deleted their kid's Minecraft worlds as some sort of a punishment, and I'm always appalled that these parents don't really understand what they're actually doing when they do things like that.

Imagine your kid has a hobby, and it's building things from matchsticks. They build castles, and cities, and little villages. They spend years building these things from matchsticks. And then one day, because their grades aren't good enough, or they've misbehaved, you go into their room and smash each and every one of their creations they have spent countless hours making. And then you go onto the internet and brag about it.

No rational parent would do that.

But to these parents on the internet, because it's a Minecraft world, and it's not a physical object that they're smashing when they delete it, they don't see it as the destruction it actually is.

Destroying something your child has created as a punishment is so wrong, on so many levels. I mean, you wouldn't rip up all the artwork they've created over the last year as punishment, would you? That just seems so horrible.

This is more about gaming profiles than actual games. I suppose there could be exceptions, but for the most part gaming profiles are little more than marketing gimmicks - similar to the real life toys that everyone needs right now, but are totally forgotten about in 6 months. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

04-May-2023 21:39:05

Averia Light

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Averia Light said :
Ok, but the thread is still about gaming profiles. Assume they don't delete underlying game saves.

Obviously if a kid takes a game to a project level like you discussed, that is a bit different than deleting something that is more of a "flavor of the week" or just exists for gaming "achievements".Just like with the toys that are a part of a fad, most move on, but some are lifelong customers.

I suppose it makes sense that it is wrong to delete games if the kid brought it to a project level and is invested in it more than a surface level, but that would be the exception I would think and a parent should be able to tell the difference.

Both these explain that I am discussing the profile/account and not the games before that quote lmao.

You discussed gaming projects and I was attempting to get you to understand that I am talking about the profile/accounts which are inherently gimmicky because there was clearly some confusion between games and accounts/profiles. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

04-May-2023 21:40:03 - Last edited on 04-May-2023 21:45:03 by Averia Light

Origin Nexus

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Averia Light said :
Both these explain that I am discussing the profile/account and not the games before that quote lmao. Averia Light said :
You discussed gaming projects and I was attempting to get you to understand that I am talking about the profile/accounts which are inherently gimmicky because there was clearly some confusion between games and accounts/profiles.
I completely understand that the thread is about profiles/accounts, and I've addressed how deleting a Minecraft account is essentially the same thing as deleting their Minecraft world, and gave reasons why. Deleting someone's RuneScape account destroys all the progress in the game they've made, in the same way that deleting someone's Minecraft account destroys all the progress in the game they've made (although in certain instances, the destruction can be reversed)

But you're claiming that thread is about "the fact that it is a marketing gimmick" when no mention of that is in the OP or in any of your posts until page 5.

If the thread is about "the fact that it is a marketing gimmick" then just add that to your opening post so that others attempting to discuss the topic are aware of what your expectation of the discussion should be focused around. They're two very different discussions. I have no issue discussing either, but, just be clear about what it is that you want users to be discussing. Don't change it pages later and then expect people to understand that you've changed the discussion topic without updating the opening post.

04-May-2023 21:49:28

Averia Light

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No I'm not. I was describing that profiles/accounts hold achievements (which are gimmicky - and the intent was to use that as a descriptor) as there was clearly confusion between a game and a profile/account.

I also clarified that I am talking about profiles/accounts that don't delete the underlying saves which is a completely normal situation.

And if you want to continue this wierd discussion, I'm probably going to stop, because this is no longer fun and is going over boring semantics. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

04-May-2023 21:57:45 - Last edited on 04-May-2023 21:59:02 by Averia Light

Origin Nexus

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Averia Light said :
I also clarified that I am talking about profiles/accounts that don't delete the underlying saves which is a completely normal situation. Deleting a Minecraft account is the equivalent of deleting all the Minecraft "saves", as Minecraft worlds are specifically linked to the account that created them. This also applies to Minecraft Realms (another type of game save), which are lost when a Minecraft account is deleted. You can't delete a RuneScape account without deleting the "saves" as the game progress is dynamically saved in realtime as you play.

Can you give me an example of when deleting an account/profile does not result in the game's "saves" being lost?

04-May-2023 21:58:43 - Last edited on 04-May-2023 22:02:38 by Origin Nexus

Averia Light

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Dude, I clarified and if you are still butthurt go somewhere else.

I am discussing profile/accounts that have "achievements". Go make a thread if you don't think these "achievements" aren't gimmicky, I don't really care and that isn't the focus of this thread. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

04-May-2023 22:00:07 - Last edited on 04-May-2023 22:01:52 by Averia Light

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