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Averia Light

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If you choose to be facetious, then you should expect a response calling it out or the other party deeming it to be too much of a waste of time to respond. Did your parents teach you nothing??

I also am not in favor of the carrot and stick approach unless it involves natural consequences that are really just scaled down and "safe to learn" for kids. I agree with offering rewards, though but not with the intent to modify behavior.

That said, I suppose I never gave my opinion on the matter. I can't think of a situation that would require me to delete the gaming profile of my kid, however, I also hope to teach my kid that a gaming profile is really little more than a marketing gimmick. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

24-Mar-2023 15:46:30 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2023 16:20:04 by Averia Light

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You're right in assuming I didn't expect such a response, I'm often surprised on here. It was tongue in cheek, I apologise, I didn't think what I said was even that bad. Anyhoo...

So, you're more interested in talking about the inner workings of 'the machine'. That's interesting too. There's certainly some trickery involved, 'dopamine' reward chemicals, all that good stuff. I'm just not sure how much 'use' this information would be to a kid. Though I guess it can't hurt! As long as you're not taking the fun out of things for your child by boiling it all down. Kids will have plenty of time to be serious, cynical and sceptical of the world when they're older. https://youtu.be/MTzyz2TgGls (gaming concerns from the 90's).

I don't think a 'talk' would discourage their behaviour, not 'after' the fact (in the example case, it's a child who's 'already' addicted to a game). That'd be like walking into a bar and going up to a drunk bloke and saying "you know that's bad for you, right?" (joking again!)

But as a pre-emptive measure, perhaps! without overbearing, I guess it wouldn't hurt

I wonder... if people are born with addictive personalities, or whether they're 'more' products of their environment ? I saw a good TED talk not long ago on this: https://youtu.be/PY9DcIMGxMs?t=740

It could be that we just need to get kids out of their room by making them feel welcome "downstairs" lol, I fear that's why people lock themselves away and choose to live in virtual worlds vs reality. It can be difficult to hang out around people you don't have anything in common with. So, maybe parents ought to take that approach (if they're not already); take an interest in their kids hobbies, give them a reason to want to spend more time downstairs or outside. Don't let TV / computer be a surrogate.

Apologies for being facetious, I just think it helps to have a sense of humour on these forums. When people get a bit serious I do tend to crack jokes, but I mean no harm. Peace. Bob says:
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24-Mar-2023 22:57:46

Bruce Waayne
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Im old now but my parents didnt know how to get to the website for the game, or turn on the console. And they never have. They dont even have cellphones, i tell people this and they are stunned to hear it rofl. They are late 50s.
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16-Apr-2023 21:22:29

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I've seen horror stories of parents on the internet posting about how they deleted their kid's Minecraft worlds as some sort of a punishment, and I'm always appalled that these parents don't really understand what they're actually doing when they do things like that.

Imagine your kid has a hobby, and it's building things from matchsticks. They build castles, and cities, and little villages. They spend years building these things from matchsticks. And then one day, because their grades aren't good enough, or they've misbehaved, you go into their room and smash each and every one of their creations they have spent countless hours making. And then you go onto the internet and brag about it.

No rational parent would do that.

But to these parents on the internet, because it's a Minecraft world, and it's not a physical object that they're smashing when they delete it, they don't see it as the destruction it actually is.

Destroying something your child has created as a punishment is so wrong, on so many levels. I mean, you wouldn't rip up all the artwork they've created over the last year as punishment, would you? That just seems so horrible.

03-May-2023 04:29:30

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Origin Nexus said :
I've seen horror stories of parents on the internet posting about how they deleted their kid's Minecraft worlds as some sort of a punishment, and I'm always appalled that these parents don't really understand what they're actually doing when they do things like that.

Imagine your kid has a hobby, and it's building things from matchsticks. They build castles, and cities, and little villages. They spend years building these things from matchsticks. And then one day, because their grades aren't good enough, or they've misbehaved, you go into their room and smash each and every one of their creations they have spent countless hours making. And then you go onto the internet and brag about it.

No rational parent would do that.

But to these parents on the internet, because it's a Minecraft world, and it's not a physical object that they're smashing when they delete it, they don't see it as the destruction it actually is.

Destroying something your child has created as a punishment is so wrong, on so many levels. I mean, you wouldn't rip up all the artwork they've created over the last year as punishment, would you? That just seems so horrible.

I agree with everything you just said. Wise words.
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03-May-2023 15:40:11

Averia Light

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Origin Nexus said :
I've seen horror stories of parents on the internet posting about how they deleted their kid's Minecraft worlds as some sort of a punishment, and I'm always appalled that these parents don't really understand what they're actually doing when they do things like that.

Imagine your kid has a hobby, and it's building things from matchsticks. They build castles, and cities, and little villages. They spend years building these things from matchsticks. And then one day, because their grades aren't good enough, or they've misbehaved, you go into their room and smash each and every one of their creations they have spent countless hours making. And then you go onto the internet and brag about it.

No rational parent would do that.

But to these parents on the internet, because it's a Minecraft world, and it's not a physical object that they're smashing when they delete it, they don't see it as the destruction it actually is.

Destroying something your child has created as a punishment is so wrong, on so many levels. I mean, you wouldn't rip up all the artwork they've created over the last year as punishment, would you? That just seems so horrible.

This is more about gaming profiles than actual games. I suppose there could be exceptions, but for the most part gaming profiles are little more than marketing gimmicks - similar to the real life toys that everyone needs right now, but are totally forgotten about in 6 months. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

04-May-2023 20:10:47 - Last edited on 04-May-2023 20:28:52 by Averia Light

Origin Nexus

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Averia Light said :
This is more about gaming profiles than actual games. I suppose there could be exceptions, but for the most part gaming profiles are little more than marketing gimmicks. If you delete a Minecraft profile, you're essentially deleting the worlds created by the account. If you're on PC, you can manually restore the Minecraft worlds and copy them to a different account, if you know how. If you're not, those worlds are lost. They're still on the cloud, you just can't access them as they're linked to the account profile that was deleted.

04-May-2023 20:33:24

Averia Light

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Ok, but the thread is still about gaming profiles. Assume they don't delete underlying game saves.

Obviously if a kid takes a game to a project level like you discussed, that is a bit different than deleting something that is more of a "flavor of the week" or just exists for gaming "achievements".Just like with the toys that are a part of a fad, most move on, but some are lifelong customers.

I suppose it makes sense that it is wrong to delete games if the kid brought it to a project level and is invested in it more than a surface level, but that would be the exception I would think and a parent should be able to tell the difference. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

04-May-2023 20:36:57 - Last edited on 04-May-2023 20:51:34 by Averia Light

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