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Megycal
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My husband had his 2nd shot of the AstraZeneca vaccine a week ago. He had no side effects at all ( at least none that he'd admit to :P ) I'm still waiting to hear when my 2nd jab will be :( :( I had the Pfizer vaccine. If it was the same time gap as my husband I should have been getting it tomorrow.
edit to add: All this waiting is starting to make me feel unsettled. I can't relax around other people, even in an outdoor setting, until I've had that 2nd shot

01-May-2021 18:03:29 - Last edited on 01-May-2021 18:06:51 by Megycal

FiFi LaFeles

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I've had both mine. AZ.

I confess I'm a little confused as to what the vaccine does. Some claims are that it decreases the 'viral load' therefore making anyone who has been jabbed and subsequently becomes infected less likely to become seriously ill from it.

Other claims are that it makes the viral load so low that an infected person is far less likely to pass the illness on to others.

Idk, it's a bit vague and wrapped up in medical jargon. Anyway, it seems to be doing something worthwhile since in the UK our infection rates (and therefore deaths) are consistently falling.

This will spike again no doubt as the lockdown easing continues but hopefully not to the massive pre-vaccination levels seen last year.
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02-May-2021 10:22:10 - Last edited on 02-May-2021 10:23:07 by FiFi LaFeles

Jenesiis
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Megycal said :
My husband had his 2nd shot of the AstraZeneca vaccine a week ago. He had no side effects at all ( at least none that he'd admit to :P ) I'm still waiting to hear when my 2nd jab will be :( :( I had the Pfizer vaccine. If it was the same time gap as my husband I should have been getting it tomorrow.
edit to add: All this waiting is starting to make me feel unsettled. I can't relax around other people, even in an outdoor setting, until I've had that 2nd shot


I must admit I too felt a lot safer when I was going to have my second jab. I am assuming that it will take a couple of weeks, as did the first, to kick in, but after that I think I will be far more confident going to work.

02-May-2021 11:09:31

General Tap
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I had my second COVID-19 vaccine this week (Moderna). The first one was pretty rough for me, only side effect was "arm soreness", however leaving it at that description would be an understatement. It felt like my arm was hit with a baseball bat from that evening until about 36 hours later. We're talking 9/10 throbbing/sharp arm pain with movement. No way I would have been able to work the next day. It was fairly miserable trying to sleep the first and second nights. Tried some high-dose ibuprofen and tylenol the 2nd evening, but by the time I woke up the next morning (post-vaccine day 2), the soreness was tolerable (~5/10 on the pain scale), and it was very mild by that evening (~2/10). No fevers, chills, or body aches.

After the second immunization this week, I had very mild arm soreness (2/10) for perhaps 48 hours, and perhaps some very mild body aches the next morning when I woke up. I took naproxen as needed. I was still able to do a good run and swim workout that day with no problem.

I don't know why I had such a fierce response after the first injection, as anecdotally most people have more severe side effects after the second. Perhaps it was because I had worked out recently before the first (thus increased blood flow to the muscles, allowing for an increased immune/inflammatory reaction?), or because I was also treating an outer ear infection at the same time (innate/non-specific immune system already sensitised/activated due to secondary infection?) I always find the various and almost unpredictable reactions people have to the same treatment interesting. :)

Either way, I'd still do it again despite the rather miserable experience after the first injection. Only 10 more days until full protection! :D
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02-May-2021 20:54:18 - Last edited on 02-May-2021 20:58:10 by General Tap

General Tap
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FiFi LaFeles said :
I confess I'm a little confused as to what the vaccine does. Some claims are that it decreases the 'viral load' therefore making anyone who has been jabbed and subsequently becomes infected less likely to become seriously ill from it.

Other claims are that it makes the viral load so low that an infected person is far less likely to pass the illness on to others.

Idk, it's a bit vague and wrapped up in medical jargon.


While each individual vaccine is different, and there are different kinds of vaccines, all vaccines essentially work under basically the same principle. And that is to "prime the immune system". In other words, it is a way that we can teach our immune system to recognize and fight an illness before it is ever exposed to it. For infectious diseases, it typically does this by introducing our bodies to a "weakened" form of a virus/bacteria, or even just a part of it.

As an oversimplification, our immune system has various functions, such as fighting off infections, producing annoying symptoms due to allergies, and even fighting cancer. Normally, our bodies are quite slow in reacting to a new insult (ie. infection), and it takes time for it to respond, however when it eventually does and fights the infection off, it creates a "memory" of that infection. So that when it encounters that infectious organism (bacteria/virus) again, it is able to respond quicker and more aggressively, because it "remembers" the infection. So by "simulating" a first infection by giving someone a vaccine (again, it's only a weakened version of the bug, or even just a part of it), we hope to teach the immune response about it, so that if it should encounter the real bug down the road, it will act quicker and more aggressively so that the infection can't develop unchecked to a point where it causes great bodily harm or even death.
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02-May-2021 21:16:41 - Last edited on 02-May-2021 21:18:37 by General Tap

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And just to a add a point about the "viral load", since you mentioned it (and because I ran out of space in the previous response), a good vaccine generally should reduce the viral load to be effective. Every vaccine is different and will affect the viral load differently, and to different degress, but it will generally always lower it. It can be complicated as a greater viral load does not always mean worse symptoms, worse illness, or even increased transmissability (the ability for the virus to spread to other people), however that is generally the case.

Without going into further overly-complicated and technical immunology, there are various factors that contribute to the severity of a person's illness and their ability to transmit an infectious disease to another person. As much as the virus plays an important role, the person's immune system is equally as important, and in some cases more important. This is partly why immunocompromised people (those with weak or no immune system) can become very ill from relatively small viral loads, or very minimal exposure. Also, it is these individuals that are most susceptible to severe disease, yet often get little to no benefit from vaccines due to the way that vaccines work as I mentioned in my previous post. :(
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02-May-2021 21:33:51 - Last edited on 02-May-2021 21:53:14 by General Tap

Nead
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As a healthcare worker, I received both of mine by mid February. C-19 is for sure a problem within the hospital(s) and I believe that the vaccine has certainly helped many. I recommend it alongside the continuation to social distance and mask-wearing.

It should also be noted that due to the government funding towards hospitals near the beginning of this last year, hospitals that report C-19 related deaths receive a portion of that for each death. So for the media to now state this year that there are near zero flu deaths reported last year essentially DUE to C-19 overtaking, well, you get it :P . With C-19 essentially being a worse strain of the flu, it's important to not let your guard down.

PSA: Bath & Body-works has small, pocket-size hand sanitizers (5 for only $8) that I carry everywhere with me when I'm working. Another wise investment, imho, coming from someone whom hasn't even got it yet, even prior to the vaccine, AND being in contact with C-19 patients frequently.

Be safe.

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03-May-2021 15:37:49

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Got my first jab today, no side effects so far.

Wasn't planning on getting the jab, it was a definite no from me, then I got an email, I had a two day window to get it done; and I just thought why not. Second jab has already been booked. The place I got it done is not going to be there after two weeks and one day, so I hope I don't get sick as if I can't make it in for the second jab I'm not sure how I would get it.
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06-May-2021 08:35:18

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Well done, Dong. Although your country has an admirable track record in keeping Covid numbers down (compared to the rest of the world) there's no harm in being super-safe.

As for your venue - we've had many short term pop-up Clinics here so you'll probably find there will be another one in your locality at the time your second jab is due.
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06-May-2021 08:53:08

Dadizar
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Dong U Dead said :
Got my first jab today, no side effects so far.

Wasn't planning on getting the jab, it was a definite no from me, then I got an email, I had a two day window to get it done; and I just thought why not. Second jab has already been booked. The place I got it done is not going to be there after two weeks and one day, so I hope I don't get sick as if I can't make it in for the second jab I'm not sure how I would get it.

Glad you got vaccinated! :)

Which vaccine did you get?

My daughter is fully vaccinated and happy she is. She is a pre-school teacher and one of the few vaccinated teachers at her school. One of the students tested positive Sunday.
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