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Ten Ten Men
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Software Engineer (not with Jagex) opinion.

We went from AI being a high level program, something people do in their university papers ( hello, that's me! ) to something that has become so available that some people may ask jokes such as what passing wind smells like.

What we're now seeing is AI capable of coding . One of the more niche jobs that people find a lot harder (as I'd hope - it's my livelihood), is now doable by just typing a question into a chatbox... The AI revolution has begun!

Will this steal my job?
It will probably hurt a lot of jobs, but not entirely. Why is this?
Disclaimers! Praise be the disclaimers!

You've just watched 2001: A Space Odyssey and you have a certain distrust for circular red lights and robots called HAL, but you may be left with one question - who are they going to punish for the malfunction?
Mission Control bought this software for the spaceship, so should they be punished?
Programmers wrote this software for the spaceship, so should they be punished?
Astronauts on the spaceship haven't noticed/reported errors before the AI hits breaking point, so should they be punished?
The AI isn't telling you it's broken, so should the AI be punished?

The answer is simultaneously yes and no, any good AI program will have disclaimers saying "we can't take responsibility, by using this software you promise you won't give us hassle" or words to that effect. There is no accountability.

This is good for people in responsible positions (in a way) - you'll be punished instead of the AI!

We can also hope that laws are passed to prevent workforces becoming more than x% AI/Robots (just like that Dr Who episode).

My friends and co-workers enjoy going to ChatGPT to solve coding problems, so it's definitely on the up, and if you look at AI art made 1 year ago and made this year with the same prompt, you'll start to understand just how much AI has caught on in such a short timeframe...

05-May-2023 11:21:46

SlR
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Averia Light said :
Idk..
What would happen if AI systems were given control over critical infrastructure or weapons systems without proper safeguards

The future is headed in this direction. Not everyone will abide by the same rules. Ai will make life/death decisions on the battlefield. Some countries will bypass the human factor. They do it now, outside of Ai. Claymore mines for example; the UK is not allowed to use them without a clacker (remote) whereas the US can (using proximity), and they're "the good guys". Rules of engagement change. Desperate times desperate measures. I'm not saying it's as bad as the invention of the atom bomb, but I personally think you're underestimating it. Ai cyber disruption of infrastructure will be a future /modern-day dam busters raid. People are panicking because it's moving faster than we can put in safeguards for it. Hence the call to halt development. https://youtu.be/VcVfceTsD0A - (Max Tegmark) if you have the time, he gives a few examples of how it could be used to disrupt. Obviously I wont list them here.

Positives? it'll redefine jobs. We'll outsource the boring stuff (if we can) making us happier, more productive, win-win. That said, there are a lot of countries that rely on outsourcing jobs from first world countries, it doesn't look good for them. Ai will affect jobs, but what can ya do? adapt! I've had this happen with me and photography. When analogue moved to digital, people thought that was the end of photography. When photography moves to 'pulling stills from 8k video' people will say the same thing. We just have to adapt. Find things that Ai cannot do and specialise in that. My sympathy goes to graduates who's skills / tasks are easy to automate. It's like when social media first kicked off and everyone rushed to get coding and computer science degrees. It was a high paying job until it became saturated with competition. Ai will 'saturate' a lot of jobs. We'll need a new USP
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05-May-2023 16:20:01 - Last edited on 27-May-2023 19:03:38 by SlR

Rooh
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SlR said :
Not everyone will abide by the same rules. Ai will make life/death decisions on the battlefield.


This is the worrying bit. No matter how much legislation is put in place, there will be those who want to use it without regard to anyone else.
Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

06-May-2023 11:01:04

XSlay4DeathX
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all i know is current and former humans all follow the same pathway of 'destroying themselves'.

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If your goal is create poverty and replace yourselves, AI is 100% the best way to this goal.

AI is smart enough like myself not to warn people, only help them reach demise.

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My goals are those against humanity face justice for treason against the people.

AI goals would be to replace us and the tech has one flaw, some people have the same faces to a degree and will make the world too dangerous, but many will fight back.

"what causes and pushes bad events in history?, I know everything" :P

Best protection against AI attacks, face paint and mud on face to mess with surface detections of a face. Humanity will prevail this mass of stupidity. Take off enemy uniforms and wear those to walk past, if they use chips in hands etc, well 'when there is a will, there is a way'.

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The resolve to this AI stuff is already designed, people such as myself were already warned about today's humans failings. The greedy ones might just be left in the open for all to see. motives will be judged.

I do know way more on this topic and chain of events but forum mods don't like my warnings/insights, just know this "reinforcements have been designed and put in places they need to be". ;)

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I still stand by my statements, "humanity is daft as nails, better talking to a wall, would get better answers back"

-"we are for putting an end to poverty.....now we are using AI to replace peoples jobs"

-"We are for peaceful measures, but will be designing killing machines"

Pages and pages of lies and false goals, humanity is so far off the train track.
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A document does exist to aid everyone fight this battle, from covid 19 to now hasn't been without a reason to my prevention measures. ;) Let the chess game begin. :D

07-May-2023 02:59:58

Rooh
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There's an interesting "beginners guide" to A.I. in The Guardian today:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/06/man-v-machine-everything-you-need-to-know-about-ai
Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

07-May-2023 09:47:32

FiFi LaFeles

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I'm not worried about it because I'm too dim to understand it. Ignorance is bliss. And doubtless I shall be dead anyway before it's used to blow the planet to glory.

Good luck, young 'uns.
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07-May-2023 23:57:33

Origin Nexus

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Rooh said :
There's an interesting "beginners guide" to A.I. in The Guardian today:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/06/man-v-machine-everything-you-need-to-know-about-ai


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In giant “call centres”, staffed by workers paid as little as $2 an hour, the company asked human trainers to hold, and rate, millions of chat-style conversations with GPT, teaching the AI what a good response is and what a bad response is. However, ChatGPT can’t know the answer to any question after its training data was set, in around 2021.
You know you're going to be getting accurate training when you're paying such a wage. For $2 an hour you can expect nothing but the best.

09-May-2023 06:34:54

Origin Nexus

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Bertel62 said :
We should be worried when people use it to lie and deceive, claiming that something is real when in fact it is fake and made with AI. It has already begun.

I am worried about the misuse of it.
I present to you.... Joe Biden and Bill Cosby sharing a piece of fried chicken:

;)

09-May-2023 08:42:45

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