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Apparently the peeps in charge of the ballot results here in Aus will be releasing an approximation of the current yeses/noes that have been returned each week until the vote deadline. I'll try post 'em here (if I remember). :)
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28-Sep-2017 09:50:23

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No results yet, but apparently around 8m people have returned their (voluntary) surveys already. Very impressive, considering we have only about 28m in the country and not all of them are voting age.
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07-Oct-2017 02:33:13

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what does the I stand for and why is there a new letter every fucking time someone brings up this topic
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07-Oct-2017 02:51:25

Jesse B77

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^intersex. Blame Tumblr and feminism.

Anyone wanna take a bet on what kind of numbers we're expecting from the vote, I'm willing to wager that there'll be between 86% - 92% yes, not sure why those numbers but it feels like a good bet. I hope it's around those numbers anyway.

Personally, I voted no (put down your pitchforks, read the whole post) . That said, I didn't vote that way because I necessarily don't agree with the topic statement myself, and given my sexual persuasion it's really in my interest to vote yes. The reason I voted the way I did was because I don't like the narrative surrounding the vote, in a situation like this where the topic of debate is a change of lawful definition I believe there is only opinions, there is no right and wrong answer, however that was not the case with the debate.

I feel as though there was a characterization of no voters as the bad guys, as though a no vote was inherently wrong or the incorrect choice, and that people who held that opinion were being shamed for the way they felt. On top of this, although I lean progressive, I'm acutely aware of the dangers of unchecked progressivism and social upheaval such as we've seen in the US. To that end, although I hope the vote is passed and the LGBT crowd get full marriage rights, I felt it was important to provide a dissenting voice to make the government see that universal social change is not acceptable.

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UncleAdolfo

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Jesse B77 said :
^intersex. Blame Tumblr and feminism
what does that even mean

good post though, the left more often than not treat gays and minorities like nothing more than free votes and unfortunately it usually works, I wouldn't say to vote against your own interest but it's nice to see someone not following the "you have to vote this way or else you're a nazi" bs in this scenario.
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07-Oct-2017 03:04:11

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isn't that what transgender is supposed to be? people who were born in the body of X but the hormones of Y?
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07-Oct-2017 03:43:55

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I guess it's a matter of proportion. I mean, regardless of what physical sex you are you still have circulation of estrogen, progesterone and testosterone, just in different quantities. The whole 'born in the wrong body' thing is more about a psychological disconnection between expressed physical sex and self-actualized identity, which is known as gender dysphoria (though this is not the sole reason for transsexualism).

As for intersex, that seem's to be more based on physical manifestations of sexual duality, such as being hermaphroditic.

07-Oct-2017 04:04:07 - Last edited on 07-Oct-2017 04:07:26 by Jesse B77

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