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Last day of remote work as we are doing a system upgrade.
And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known
And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known
12-Feb-2021 12:55:19
Joel
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[But lets not conflate that, which is usually to give you a tanned appearance you could otherwise achieve by a sun destination holiday or a sun-bed (so its essentially a shortcut), with what I was more referring to which is things like Blackface etc. Two very different things with different intent. You can't lighten your skin in the same manner without makeup. There is no "anti-sun bed".
What do you consider "Blackface"? And what is the "etc", is it "Whiteface"?
What if the intent of "Blackface" or "Whiteface" isn't malicious?
What if it's part of your culture?
Or what if it's intention is comedic? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
[But lets not conflate that, which is usually to give you a tanned appearance you could otherwise achieve by a sun destination holiday or a sun-bed (so its essentially a shortcut), with what I was more referring to which is things like Blackface etc. Two very different things with different intent. You can't lighten your skin in the same manner without makeup. There is no "anti-sun bed".
What do you consider "Blackface"? And what is the "etc", is it "Whiteface"?
What if the intent of "Blackface" or "Whiteface" isn't malicious?
What if it's part of your culture?
Or what if it's intention is comedic? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
13-Feb-2021 03:49:53
Joel
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NexOrigin said :
If it's socially unacceptable for one race to say it, then its socially unacceptable for any race to say it. If you're claiming that certain races can't say certain words, but other races can, that's textbook racism; discrimination based on race. I'm afraid that just isn't reality. E.g the use of the N word is a perfect example. Based on its origins we as a society do not use that word due to how offensive and inappropriate it is and rightfully so. However, it does get widely used by black people in the black community so who am I (as a white person) or you (if you're white) to dictate to the black community whether or not they should or shouldn't use that word? Why? Because I/we can't use that word they shouldn't be able to? The world doesn't work like that.
Again, context, intentetc all matter with these sorts of things. Okay, for starters, that IS how reality works. Words have meanings. No matter how you justify it, or try to explain it, if the ideology discriminates based on race, that's literally racism, by the very definition of the word. Context or intent is irrelevant when asking the question "does it discriminate based on race?". It's a boolean answer; it's either "yes" or "no". If the answer is "yes", then it's literally racism, regardless if you agree with the ideology or not. You can't just change how words and definitions work because it doesn't agree with certain ideology.
It's fine that you believe that's how the world should work (as you're entitled to your opinion), but, you also need to understand that's it racist, because it's literally discriminating based on race.
Secondly, the origins of the word literally translate to "black", and have roots in both Latin and Spanish. Or as some theorize, it may be Tuaregic in origin, meaning "river of rivers".
What origin did you think it had? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
NexOrigin said :
If it's socially unacceptable for one race to say it, then its socially unacceptable for any race to say it. If you're claiming that certain races can't say certain words, but other races can, that's textbook racism; discrimination based on race. I'm afraid that just isn't reality. E.g the use of the N word is a perfect example. Based on its origins we as a society do not use that word due to how offensive and inappropriate it is and rightfully so. However, it does get widely used by black people in the black community so who am I (as a white person) or you (if you're white) to dictate to the black community whether or not they should or shouldn't use that word? Why? Because I/we can't use that word they shouldn't be able to? The world doesn't work like that.
Again, context, intentetc all matter with these sorts of things. Okay, for starters, that IS how reality works. Words have meanings. No matter how you justify it, or try to explain it, if the ideology discriminates based on race, that's literally racism, by the very definition of the word. Context or intent is irrelevant when asking the question "does it discriminate based on race?". It's a boolean answer; it's either "yes" or "no". If the answer is "yes", then it's literally racism, regardless if you agree with the ideology or not. You can't just change how words and definitions work because it doesn't agree with certain ideology.
It's fine that you believe that's how the world should work (as you're entitled to your opinion), but, you also need to understand that's it racist, because it's literally discriminating based on race.
Secondly, the origins of the word literally translate to "black", and have roots in both Latin and Spanish. Or as some theorize, it may be Tuaregic in origin, meaning "river of rivers".
What origin did you think it had? I'm better than you, but that doesn't mean you're not great!
13-Feb-2021 03:50:01
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