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Singularity
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The #MeToo movement is actually worrying lol.

It's making me afraid to interact with women for fear of being wrongfully accused. Even though I have no reason to think this, it's still a very worrying thought. It seems like people can just slap "assault" on anything nowadays and people will immediately just jump on the bandwagon and believe the victim without digging in deeper. This is enough to ruin people and there doesn't seem to be any consequences for doing the wrongful accusing. Even if you get cleared, you'll still have doubters which can still impact you negatively.

In the end, I can see a future where men and women become separate. A dystopian world where the two genders simply do not interact with each other. This is exactly what the #MeToo movement does: makes men so afraid of women that they just stop because it's just not worth the potential repercussions. It's bad yes, and it's meant to be bad, that's why it's a problem. It's why something has to change to stop it being so heavily abused without any real consequences.

While #MeToo may have had a seemingly positive impact (to expose those doing the wrongful act) in the beginning and it may still do some positives, it's turned (or turning) into something negative and rather damaging. It's not really a minor thing either - at least I don't think it is.

Something has to change tbh. It's not only damaging males, it's damaging the credibility of women. Real sufferers #MeToo'ing will just fade into the background as all the abusers of the movement take hold and destroy their credibility, which goes against the purpose of the movement in the first place. Soon enough, no one will believe anyone #MeToo'ing and it'll just be seen as women using it for their own personal gain even if the woman really did suffer. They'd just be put into the same category as the rest which is wrong.

As always, the abusers ruin it for the rest. .

05-Dec-2018 07:27:21 - Last edited on 05-Dec-2018 07:30:28 by Singularity

Nexus Origin

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See? I'm not the only one that thinks this way:
Nexus Origin said :
What are the odds that the MeToo movement is actually a cover for oppressing women, encouraging men and women to be separate?

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05-Dec-2018 09:11:59

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Hey Fifi, I was just about to reply to you on the thread but though that would take it off topic.

I'm genuinely sorry to hear you had cancer, and I'm glad that you're a survivor... but don't you think that using it as a derogatory term trivialises it?

It's a touchy subject for many and even just seeing the word can be upsetting.
I speak from (recent) experience too.

I don't often explain my actions in such detail, but I'm happy to on this occasion.
I hope you (and Nexus) can see my point of view.
Who's the cat that won't cop out when there's danger all about?

05-Dec-2018 16:36:05

Averia Light

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Here is the title and google search of previously mentioned article. I downloaded a PDF reader the other day and it has since been a pain to read any PDF documents (go figure).

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://scholarship.law.umn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi%3Farticle%3D1412%26context%3Dlawineq&ved=2ahUKEwjKxJqC64jfAhUIW60KHSjzBlUQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw31o0Q5Q7S385xs9grszGEs

"Is Clothing Probative of Attitude or Intent-Implications for Rape and Sexual Harassment Cases"

Anyway, the website also states attempted rape, which may be a stretch, but hardly any more dramatic than the wild conspiracy theories you are discussing. Furthermore, the report behind the website says 1 in 5 women are raped, which really indicates that it is a huge problem.

In any case, the ~13% over and above the 20% that have experienced completed rape is literally what we are debating about. I personally think the 20% base number that have been raped is more than enough to prove there is a problem, don't you think?

To be clear, I don't care for the verbiage, but it does little to prove there is an attack against men and it still provides evidence that there is a real problem. 1 in 5 women actually experiencing completed rape is a problem. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

05-Dec-2018 16:50:05

Averia Light

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Rooh said :
Hey Fifi, I was just about to reply to you on the thread but though that would take it off topic.

I'm genuinely sorry to hear you had cancer, and I'm glad that you're a survivor... but don't you think that using it as a derogatory term trivialises it?

It's a touchy subject for many and even just seeing the word can be upsetting.
I speak from (recent) experience too.

I don't often explain my actions in such detail, but I'm happy to on this occasion.
I hope you (and Nexus) can see my point of view.

I will sidestep here.

My dad literally just got diagnosed with cancer last week. He went into the ER for massive internal bleeding last week. They found he had cancer and, due to the massive bleeding and his lifestyle, prepared us to hear the worst. By some miracle, it hadn't spread and it is "very survivable". This is only the most recent event in my family.

I also do not find the term offensive. It was clearly intended to mean a plague on society as opposed to making fun of cancer patients. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

05-Dec-2018 16:55:15 - Last edited on 05-Dec-2018 17:13:28 by Averia Light

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Singularity said :
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I am a #metoo person. I do not discuss it a lot, but there have been 4 separate instances (one lasting several months) in my own life that involved unwanted and physical sexual contact. Obviously the severity of each situation varies dramatically.

Men should absolutely protect themselves like women have been protecting themselves for decades, probably centuries. Have a pee buddy, always travel in groups, don't put yourself in a vulnerable position, etc... etc.... While I understand your fear and would like to validate that it is a real fear, I want you to realize that your fear of an accusation mirrors a female's fear of being assaulted.

And, I absolutely agree on the people who are abusing #metoo for personal vendettas or reasons. I think I even agreed with nexus on that. And I swear I'm not going to let her know all the pain I have known

05-Dec-2018 17:05:41

Nexus Origin

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Rooh said :
I don't often explain my actions in such detail, but I'm happy to on this occasion.
I hope you (and Nexus) can see my point of view.
No. Please change my title back.

As you can see from the definitions I listed on page two, the word cancer has more than one meaning, and the use of the word cancer as used in the title is both apt, and accurate to the literal definition of the word.

Just because someone is offended, doesn't mean they are correct.

Literally the whole topic of the thread is based around people who are offended, but aren't correct, pushing other people around to get their way.
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