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Jesse B77

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^early on i would have agreed with that statement completely, but i feel like in the few episodes that theres been some sort of shift in the storytelling which im not liking as much.
Im still loving the show, but theres something i cant quite put my finger on which is preventing me from being absorbed by the recent episodes as i was with the earlier ones.
And BTW, The heck does 'pacing' mean? Every time someone feels the need to criticize a show the first and most immediate response is 'bad pacing', even when i could find no discernible fault with the show in question.


@Embrace M E; Really? personally ive found Gosick to be getting more enjoyable as the time has worn on as opposed to less so.
I think in this case, the important fact is how your watching it. If your actively trying to solve the mysteries then your going to be disappointed, because they are more of a storytelling device than the forefront of the plot.
If your watching it the way i do, putting more focus into the relationship and interaction between the characters and giving the mysteries less attention then it will be alot better.

05-Mar-2011 04:56:38 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2011 05:14:36 by Jesse B77

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@ Jesse, I guess you're right. I highly anticipated Gosick because I heard it was a mystery anime, and I've been longing for a decent one. I still enjoy the show, but I don't enjoy as much as I want to. It's still good nonetheless. I'll try to enjoy the show using your method.
Pacing is usually refer to as how the story flows. If it's too much information at once or stretching the show. It's basically the pace of the storytelling. I'm bad at explanations, but that's the basic definition of it.
Oh, ANN has a legal stream of Pandora Hearts, I've been longing for a rewatch of it, and now there's a legal alternative. Yay, I don't have to go and buy the boxset, but I do need to subscribe to ANN for Episodes 3-25.

05-Mar-2011 06:06:36

Jesse B77

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^ Im going to disagree there. I found no issues with the way AB was presented on the storytelling front. Yes, the cast was large, but where in the rulebook does it say that EVERY CAST MEMBER has to have his/her past explored in intimate detail?
Just because they aren't explored, dosent mean they dont MATTER. Even if they are just there for the funny, funny was one of the prominent aspects of the story, because not only did it make it entertaining, it's removes the morbidity from the shows high mortality rate. Point is, alot of characters create the worlds 'colour' and it meant to be funny.
I would say that this is NOT a lack of storytelling ability, but more so a different kind of storytelling. Its something you notice in a lot of KEY works, a lot of the details and even the final resolution are left unexplained for the viewer to make conclusions about. Unless you either think hard, or dont think, you'll miss that.
Each story should be evaluated through its own individual merits, not through some preconceived formula of 'deliver plot point now'. All this said and done however, i can see little distinct difference in the delivery of the two save for the fact that Madoka is more a running narrative and AB was a semi-episodic narrative.
In conclusion, 'bad pacing' can hence be summarized as 'the storytelling did not conform to my preconceived notions as to how a premise should be explored and details revealed', and is therefore almost always purely subjective and not even worth a mention in a critical context.
Jesse B77, the guy who's watched Angel Beats at least 20 times.

05-Mar-2011 06:37:20 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2011 06:42:48 by Jesse B77

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Embrace, I have to agree with you on Gosick, I'm losing my interest as well. I don't know why precisely, but it feels so generic. I can't believe this show is going to be 24 episodes, I'd rather have Madoka, Level E or Fractale a two-season-series.
As for Yumekui Merry, is anyone still watching this? I thought the last episode was kinda interesting, the story is heading in the right direction.

05-Mar-2011 07:40:17

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I wouldn't really call it 'experimenting', the early episodes felt pretty solid as a whole, even if the emotional content differed at times. It seems to me that it was the 'point' to do that, to off-set the pain of the past with the fun of the present, since thats kinda the whole thrust of the storyline.
Another big difference with Madoka, which has a big bearing on how much detail can be fleshed out, is the fact that Madoka has only one central storyline, where as Angel Beats could really be broken down into four discernible individual sub-arcs (Angel Arc, Clone Arc, Shadow Arc, Epilogue).
I remember reading at one point that AB had originally been slated for 35 episodes rather than the 13 + OAD that it got, so theres another big factor.

As for plot holes, where there? What where they? i didn't really notice them and im usually good at picking up inconsistencies like that. If you mean the disjointed death/revive order, im pretty sure that was done intentionally.

05-Mar-2011 10:01:31

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