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Team Skull
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Raleirosen said :
I went with sassy, since 1) not going for competitive, and 2) I'm already using a Defense-boosting move with Curse. Also, Explosion is awesome. Torkoalhu akbar!

Now that I think about it:

Curselax and Cursepert run Careful nature...

So I suppose Sassy could work on Torkoal since it'd be the same theory as both. The real question would be whether there are any relevant moves Torkoal can avoid the OH/2H/3HKO on by going Sassy vs Relaxed...

I'd have to run damage calcs, which I'm way too tired and stayed up way too late to do.

Nvm, just did one quick calc:

232+ SpA Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 72+ SpD Torkoal: 140-165 (40.6 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Which is a fairly relevant attack, meanwhile you can respond by going Tumeken all over that SoB:

0 Atk Torkoal Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 379-447 (114.5 - 135%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Mind, this is a competitive mindset though, so take for it what you will. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

29-Aug-2017 21:45:41 - Last edited on 29-Aug-2017 21:54:51 by Team Skull

Raleirosen

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Team Skull said :
Nvm, just did one quick calc:

232+ SpA Salamence Dragon Claw vs. 252 HP / 72+ SpD Torkoal: 140-165 (40.6 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Which is a fairly relevant attack, meanwhile you can respond by going Tumeken all over that SoB:

0 Atk Torkoal Explosion vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Salamence: 379-447 (114.5 - 135%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Mind, this is a competitive mindset though, so take for it what you will. Yeah, my eyes tend to glaze over when I see those kinds of numbers. But hey, good to know. Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

30-Aug-2017 02:00:07 - Last edited on 30-Aug-2017 02:04:45 by Raleirosen

Team Skull
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Raleirosen said :
Yeah, my eyes tend to glaze over when I see those kinds of numbers. But hey, good to know.

Yea, it's pretty easy to overlook those kinda numbers. You get used to it after a while when you play enough competitive :P

Kinda how I learned a +2 Z-Wild Charge from a Thundurus KOs your vanilla Mega Venusaur after being hit by a +2 Knock Off prior to Mega Evolution.

I'll try to avoid the massive amounts of numbers in the future and go straight for "Guaranteed or % Chance of XKO" :P "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

30-Aug-2017 08:10:50 - Last edited on 30-Aug-2017 08:12:17 by Team Skull

Ancient Drew

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I found out you have to level Pikachu up to 20 before taking on Brock on a Pikachu only run of FRLG, because Slam is the only normal move it has that can do feasible enough damage to him. And there's no way of getting any Attack EVs before Brock. Fun times. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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30-Aug-2017 08:20:40 - Last edited on 30-Aug-2017 08:23:41 by Ancient Drew

Team Skull
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Another calc for Ralei:

252 SpA Alakazam Psychic vs. 252 HP / 192+ SpD Torkoal: guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

Just barely enough special investment to avoid the 2HKO if you feel like Zam is more of a threat

Plus Duggy's Banded EQ doesn't KO even without full physical defensive investment, which is p relevant. "Revenge...is like a rolling stone, which, when a man hath forced up a hill, will return upon him with a greater violence, and break those bones whose sinews gave it motion."- Jeremy Taylor

30-Aug-2017 10:41:15

Raleirosen

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Ancient Drew said :
I'll use Torkoal in a mono Fire run of Sapphire after mapping out my speedrun. Should be fun. Would be better if I hadn't lost my Emerald one and would be able to do this on there while including Houndoom. What's the appeal of mono runs? Just challenge? Patrolling Lore FC almost makes you wish for a Great Revision.

30-Aug-2017 21:04:12 - Last edited on 30-Aug-2017 21:06:03 by Raleirosen

Ancient Drew

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Pretty much, as well as being fun. I mean I battled Skull earlier with the Mono Fairy team I have on Moon. I also have a Fairy team on X, but the Moon Fairy team is faster and more aggressive, and I just find it better as a whole.

I'm also planning on making a Deadly Sins team. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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30-Aug-2017 21:11:55

Ancient Drew

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As for the Mega competition, I'm thinking maybe Sableye if I find a Shiny one because the Shiny Mega on it looks lovely. It would be good, but it's not the one I have in mind in terms of function.

Oh, and Banette would be good for giggles. :D Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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31-Aug-2017 22:30:19 - Last edited on 31-Aug-2017 22:32:43 by Ancient Drew

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