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Tenebri
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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-04-people-die-covid-vaccinated.html

even though is fairly obvious that this would be the case, a very large study proves it. more vaccinated less people die in communities.

get vaccinated people, astonishing that there are still people thinking they are bad or whatever truly astonishing


The findings, based on data across 2,558 counties in 48 US states, show that counties with high vaccine coverage had a more than 80% reduction in death rates compared with largely unvaccinated counties.

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They measured effectiveness by comparing reported COVID-19 incidence and mortality rates in counties with very low (0-9%), low (10-39%), medium (40-69%), and high (70% or more) vaccination coverage—defined as the percentage of adults (aged 18 and over) who had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.
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18-May-2022 20:00:44 - Last edited on 18-May-2022 20:03:40 by Tenebri

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@Inspire you ~ I've hidden post of yours as you haven't provided specific context for your statements. As such, they appear off-topic as well as political. Please refrain from making off-topic comments that are political in nature.

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We have had it pretty tough lately from deaths either from Covid or from people with underling symptoms who have had Covid,

For example someone with a heart condition who dies while having Covid is classed as dying of Covid, but they may have just died of a heart attack.
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Perhaps the heart attack was triggered by having Covid? Maybe the person would have had a heart attack at some point but years could have been knocked off their life by having the attack sooner than they would have done. The same goes for many people with other underlying conditions. Imo Covid would be the cause of their premature death if it triggers a fatal episode.

19-May-2022 10:08:59

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Kiwi Magic said :
We have had it pretty tough lately from deaths either from Covid or from people with underling symptoms who have had Covid,

For example someone with a heart condition who dies while having Covid is classed as dying of Covid, but they may have just died of a heart attack.

we have 6.2m(today) covid deaths but also 15m (from december 2021) excess covid deaths

so yes they are associated with covid but they are not classified as a covid death.

https://www.who.int/data/stories/global-excess-deaths-associated-with-covid-19-january-2020-december-2021


even so if there was no covid these people who had the underlying conditions would still be alive, so they are still a casualty of covid. but they are not classed as a specific death of covid. but still are classed as a casualty of covid.

so what you are saying is true but also not. they died of a heart of attack or whatever related to the heart. but they are not classified as a "covid death" its excess death of covid. entirely different

the 6.2m stat is literally from covid. the 15m is everything related to covid, such as covid triggering an underlying condition.
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19-May-2022 10:14:08 - Last edited on 19-May-2022 10:20:10 by Tenebri

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^What about if someone who had Covid got hit by a car and died. Did they die of Covid?

Or what if a maniac shoots someone in the head who has Covid. Did he die of Covid?

Because thats how they tally up Covid cases in NZ.

Its bullshit and you know it. They died of severe brain trauma. or trauma to the heart or other organs.
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19-May-2022 10:22:29 - Last edited on 19-May-2022 10:48:19 by Kiwi Magic

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