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Yes. I mentioned something similar earlier, about having T90 health bonus, but T80 armour.
Sounds like a good idea that you had!
Thanks for the post. The New Wild (instanced) <---------> Enhancing Combat and PVP
Sounds like a good idea that you had!
Thanks for the post. The New Wild (instanced) <---------> Enhancing Combat and PVP
12-Oct-2019 01:57:11
Defenders are even less popular than shields, because in most cases players keep a shield to swap to Resonance an attack, and obviously they're going to pick the shield due to the higher tier. The accuracy passive has done it no favors, as a 3% accuracy bonus is nothing due to how easy it is to get 100% hit chance with so many accuracy bonuses and defense debuffs in the game, and doesn't make up for the 16.6% damage reduction in any way.
Dragonbane Shields passive is identical to Armor Spikes and double Revenge time gives near 100% uptime which is pretty OP.
I think the 2H should have a somewhat variation of the Defenders passives, then give both an interesting passive effect for their niche.
Effects:
-2H shield has +3 accuracy tiers opposed to the Defenders +3%.
-Rather than a 1/15 chance of reducing 50%-100% of incoming damage, the 2H has a 1/15 chance on attack of reducing all hits taken during the GCD of that attack.
Example: If it rolls when using an offensive ability, during the 1.8s delay until you can use another attack incoming hits are reduced by 25-75%. It's not as great as the 50%-100% reduction the Defender has however it can reduce MULTIPLE hits per activation as it reduces all hits during the GCD rather than just 1 hit.
Passive effect shared with Defenders: Ambidexterity
Defensive abilities are now independent from the global ability cooldown much like Ingenuity of the Humans or Dragon Slayer ability, so they can be activated at the same time as DPS abilities, however...
-Basic defensive abilities produce no adrenaline. You still get adrenaline from DPS abilities used at the same time as them.
-Threshold and Ultimate require and use adrenaline as normal.
-Your DPS still isn't that great as you're still doing MH + Defender damage, but you can use Bash/Debilitate alongside your DPS attacks to kind of make up for it
-The effect is the same between 2H shields and Defenders, but one allows 2H abilities while the other allows dual-wield. of the elves
Dragonbane Shields passive is identical to Armor Spikes and double Revenge time gives near 100% uptime which is pretty OP.
I think the 2H should have a somewhat variation of the Defenders passives, then give both an interesting passive effect for their niche.
Effects:
-2H shield has +3 accuracy tiers opposed to the Defenders +3%.
-Rather than a 1/15 chance of reducing 50%-100% of incoming damage, the 2H has a 1/15 chance on attack of reducing all hits taken during the GCD of that attack.
Example: If it rolls when using an offensive ability, during the 1.8s delay until you can use another attack incoming hits are reduced by 25-75%. It's not as great as the 50%-100% reduction the Defender has however it can reduce MULTIPLE hits per activation as it reduces all hits during the GCD rather than just 1 hit.
Passive effect shared with Defenders: Ambidexterity
Defensive abilities are now independent from the global ability cooldown much like Ingenuity of the Humans or Dragon Slayer ability, so they can be activated at the same time as DPS abilities, however...
-Basic defensive abilities produce no adrenaline. You still get adrenaline from DPS abilities used at the same time as them.
-Threshold and Ultimate require and use adrenaline as normal.
-Your DPS still isn't that great as you're still doing MH + Defender damage, but you can use Bash/Debilitate alongside your DPS attacks to kind of make up for it
-The effect is the same between 2H shields and Defenders, but one allows 2H abilities while the other allows dual-wield. of the elves
19-Nov-2019 06:42:26 - Last edited on 19-Nov-2019 06:47:16 by I ate all
Yes, it would need a cool down, a very long cool down if it doesn't take adrenaline. I just thought of the staff of light spec while reading your message (reduces melee damage by 50% for a minute, and can be spammed for unlimited uptime - not to mention that it's insane damage reduction as a 2h weapon, not even requiring a shield). Very OP. I think it needs a nerf.
I had a suspicion that halving bash's CD might be too much DPS in that case, which is why I mentioned the 2h shield reducing its CD by a few seconds, rather than half, based on balancing.
Very nice ability ideas! How come you want to give one to defenders and one to shields?
Couldn't you just make them usable by both? Using said abilities would deal more damage with a defender due to more ability damage, however, with a defender, the damage reduced would be less significant and the "reflected" hit back onto the enemy would also be reduced.
Counter seems like an awesome ability. Seems a bit strong for a basic, depending in the situation. Would be weak for regular NPCs, but may be OP for certain bosses and PVP especially. More like a threshold level of power in the latter circumstances. Idm.
Siege wall seems OP, since it only costs 15% adren and lasts half as long as barricade. At first I thought "it damages too!?, way OP!" but I realised it's a combo ability, so you can't stack it with other attacks. Not as OP as I thought, but if it were my ability, I'd make it reduce damage by 75% instead of 100% (50% for defenders), as it seems a tad strong.
I love your ideas! They could make great special attacks for 2h shields
I have some of my own ability ideas, if you'd like to have a read.
Stoic n Vain said :
New Abilities To Be Earned Stoic n Vain said :
New Abilities To Be Earned[continued]
Thanks very much for the response and ideas!
The New Wild (instanced)
<--------->
Enhancing Combat and PVP
I had a suspicion that halving bash's CD might be too much DPS in that case, which is why I mentioned the 2h shield reducing its CD by a few seconds, rather than half, based on balancing.
Very nice ability ideas! How come you want to give one to defenders and one to shields?
Couldn't you just make them usable by both? Using said abilities would deal more damage with a defender due to more ability damage, however, with a defender, the damage reduced would be less significant and the "reflected" hit back onto the enemy would also be reduced.
Counter seems like an awesome ability. Seems a bit strong for a basic, depending in the situation. Would be weak for regular NPCs, but may be OP for certain bosses and PVP especially. More like a threshold level of power in the latter circumstances. Idm.
Siege wall seems OP, since it only costs 15% adren and lasts half as long as barricade. At first I thought "it damages too!?, way OP!" but I realised it's a combo ability, so you can't stack it with other attacks. Not as OP as I thought, but if it were my ability, I'd make it reduce damage by 75% instead of 100% (50% for defenders), as it seems a tad strong.
I love your ideas! They could make great special attacks for 2h shields
I have some of my own ability ideas, if you'd like to have a read.
Stoic n Vain said :
New Abilities To Be Earned Stoic n Vain said :
New Abilities To Be Earned[continued]
Thanks very much for the response and ideas!
The New Wild (instanced)
<--------->
Enhancing Combat and PVP
21-Nov-2019 09:37:04 - Last edited on 21-Nov-2019 09:42:45 by Stoic n Vain
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