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Raphtalia6
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keggyyy said :
Another suggestion to the op:



Step 5: Be wary of people who like to act normal on their mains but on their alts they may post fake trades/ have shard scammers at world 2/may be lurers and much more. They may have accounts for death threats/flaming too. When trading all items over max cash be wary of all these details.


Totally agreed on that, but the solution is putting your pm on friends only. then ppl can request to add them in your list for pms. thats what i do because i got alot of scammers and lurers when i bought my first phat.

that way randoms who use alts or other means to do harm cant reach you. on the down side its a bit harder to trade but thats just adapting.
trusting certain pc lists or prices of items or websites that dont belong to jagex will get you into trouble notice: external websites and trades are your responsibility, dont get fooled!.

30-May-2021 14:09:57

Radyi
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Raphtalia6 said :
keggyyy said :
Another suggestion to the op:



Step 5: Be wary of people who like to act normal on their mains but on their alts they may post fake trades/ have shard scammers at world 2/may be lurers and much more. They may have accounts for death threats/flaming too. When trading all items over max cash be wary of all these details.


Totally agreed on that, but the solution is putting your pm on friends only. then ppl can request to add them in your list for pms. thats what i do because i got alot of scammers and lurers when i bought my first phat.

that way randoms who use alts or other means to do harm cant reach you. on the down side its a bit harder to trade but thats just adapting.


I think now that high valued rares are so expensive, it is a necessity as scams/lurers/etc... are becoming more prevalent.
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31-May-2021 11:19:41

H Rassy
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Pm to friendly i think is not the way to go.
Despite all the scammers you want the potential seller to be able to contact you as easily as possible. You just need to learn to recognize them and how to deal with them.

You have to be online a lot with your pm open. The person who is willing to sell a rare cheap is not going to wait an uncertain amount of hours to maybe get a few 100 million more for a partyhat.
For people who sell relatively cheap its often a trade of covenience,you just have to be there at the right time and the right place.

Putting the price that you pay in the post is something i kinda like but its also a bit inflexible. You dont have any room for further negotiations and if the price changes during the 1 week you put up your post then what you go do? It gives sellers the opportunity to look for better offers and then if the price drops or if noone else offers better then at the end they sell it to you. Despite this i kinda do like putting the price in the post and overall i think it does help.

The main thing though is beeing online a lot,that really makes the difference.

31-May-2021 15:11:28

Trip180

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F Mods will change the title price, if you ask them. There's a thread. I guess it would be rude to change the price repeatedly, but one change is fine.

I like stating the price. People will overcut/undercut if I do that, but rares are so uncommon now that it can be a good strategy. Some people hate hearing "offer." It can be good to state a price. But no matter what past sales are, or are claimed to be, I sell for what I want. If no one wants to buy/sell, that's fine.
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01-Jun-2021 03:39:20 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2021 03:43:24 by Trip180

I Jonyfrecle

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If you want to buy a rare, you should not worry about potential sudden price changes, there is a very gradual increase over time, but that's probably not going to be noticable in the 1-2 weeks it takes to buy the rare.
Short term real price swings
(price swings generated by supply and demand, not price manipulators)
have as much change to help you as to hurt you.


The point is, never panic buy/sell

01-Jun-2021 11:05:30 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2021 21:09:20 by I Jonyfrecle

Trip180

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I Jonyfrecle said :


All of this gives the
impression
that the rare have suddenly changed price.
If you want to buy a rare, you should not worry about potential sudden price changes, the rare market doesn't work like that, there is a very gradual increase over time


This isn't true though. If supply suddenly runs out, prices rocket up. This happens in cryptocurrencies and in everything else.

What happens is a price becomes established, everyone expects this price to remain, and then there's no supply. Usually it's stakers paying more and more. Look at phats last year. If that rise was fake, then blue would return to ~25-30b. Clearly, sudden rises can happen and are real. Blue phat is not 30b at this moment.

Prices can also fall suddenly. Recent example: The phat crash that happened a few months ago (or whenever it was) that everyone called "manip." What happened? There was someone selling phats, and he caused others to panic.

Merchants declared that there was no panic, that rare prices can never fall, and prevented perceived prices from falling much. But, there was a real yellow trade at 22b. Probably, more could have traded at a similar price, but they were pumped back up by people claiming prices can't change so suddenly. They can.

One reason phats could crash or rise easily right now is the outrageously high price and low supply of phats at the moment. If just a small increase of supply hits the market, there can be no buyers to buy.

It's a very good rule to tell a buyer not to buy after a sudden rise. It's also a good rule to consider buying after a price fall. Because prices tend to recover in each direction. But price changes can be real.
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01-Jun-2021 15:32:36 - Last edited on 01-Jun-2021 15:34:11 by Trip180

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If these items traded in the ge, you all would see the sudden price changes.

In the distant past, people were dumping phats, and yellow bottomed at 600m. It crashed down a lot. People were selling like there was no bottom.

Panics can happen. That's how a market works: Up and down, not a slow steady rise.
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01-Jun-2021 15:37:55

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