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H Rassy
Sep Member 2023

H Rassy

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Based on santa prices hats are still lagging far behind.
Barely any trades are done and even fewer are reported. Only low trades are beeing reported in the hope to be able to buy more hats for a low price.

The other day i watched a discussion in w2 where one dude had sold a BSH for a certain price and his friends argued that he should not post it on forum because then he would not be able to buy it back cheaper, nothing has changed.
It was all in vain as the price now is already 2b higher.

Its like the summer before balanced trade update. Back then prices also did explode based on duel arena and the rwit and gambling with real monney connected to it.
If nothing changes then blue and white will be above max shards within weeks,they already should be at that price based on santa prices.

Yellow is worth 7 santas at the minimum. Blue 20 santas at the minimum. To get an idea of a fair price to sell a hat for i would recommand people to simply look at the santa prices and then multiply those accordingly for every hat with the above values as the absolute minimum.

Though in this situation i wouldnt recommand selling a hat to anyone. You might get lucky if jagex takes action but as long as jagex doesnt take there is no telling where the rise will end (though it obviously wont rise forever).

25-Aug-2020 09:24:44

Porzl
Jun Member 2006

Porzl

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H Rassy said :
Based on santa prices hats are still lagging far behind.
Barely any trades are done and even fewer are reported. Only low trades are beeing reported in the hope to be able to buy more hats for a low price.

The other day i watched a discussion in w2 where one dude had sold a BSH for a certain price and his friends argued that he should not post it on forum because then he would not be able to buy it back cheaper, nothing has changed.
It was all in vain as the price now is already 2b higher.

Its like the summer before balanced trade update. Back then prices also did explode based on duel arena and the rwit and gambling with real monney connected to it.
If nothing changes then blue and white will be above max shards within weeks,they already should be at that price based on santa prices.

Yellow is worth 7 santas at the minimum. Blue 20 santas at the minimum. To get an idea of a fair price to sell a hat for i would recommand people to simply look at the santa prices and then multiply those accordingly for every hat with the above values as the absolute minimum.

Though in this situation i wouldnt recommand selling a hat to anyone. You might get lucky if jagex takes action but as long as jagex doesnt take there is no telling where the rise will end (though it obviously wont rise forever).


Your methods for valuing phats as a multiple of santas doesnt work when prices rise this much. Look at masks, they have gone up substantially but the variance to "buy up" between them hasn't changed much since they were under 700m. Based on your method (using 3.2b for santa) yellow would be 22.4b and blue is 64b, which is a huge gap, it's doubtful you'd see that big a gap in the market, if anything the prices will condense more at the climb with people willing to buy any phat available.

25-Aug-2020 15:23:30

Artillary

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Hey guys, I've been watching the h'ween trades and there is either a lack of reporting going on for blues and reds or green is overvalued and blues and reds are undervalued. Green just sold for same price as blue while red has not moved. Thoughts?

25-Aug-2020 16:46:35

H Rassy
Sep Member 2023

H Rassy

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Your methods for valuing phats as a multiple of santas doesnt work when prices rise this much. Look at masks, they have gone up substantially but the variance to "buy up" between them hasn't changed much since they were under 700m. Based on your method (using 3.2b for santa) yellow would be 22.4b and blue is 64b, which is a huge gap, it's doubtful you'd see that big a gap in the market, if anything the prices will condense more at the climb with people willing to buy any phat available.[/quote]

Yes blue has come down a lot over the years,relatively. it used to be 3 times purple indeed,or white+purple or 2x red. But it has been consistently lower then that for several years now and probably with a good reason.

Santa hats have not had current ratios for several years consistently,which for me is reason to value yellow at 7 santas still even though the current prices don,t fully reflect that.
Placing yellow at a minimum value of 7xsanta is still reasonable imo. That doesnt mean the actual prices will always reflect that ratio though. But its the ratio i use for myself to determine a fair price for a partyhat. Its very difficult to get an idea of a good price based on trades,since there is not many trades beeing done in the first place and even less of them are beeing reported. You have to go by something and this is my personal guideline,but i can understand other people have different ideas of how much yellow should be worth and what they are willing to sell for.

It could be that santas have become more valuable in relation to partyhats,maybe many santas got banned on certain accounts or a player with a lot of santas has quit forever taking them of the market. But for now i dont see a reason why yellow should be worth less then 7 santas.
But again thats just my personal opion. I dont play much so i dont claim that my opinion is the right one,but its the one i am sticking with.

25-Aug-2020 19:14:49 - Last edited on 25-Aug-2020 19:22:40 by H Rassy

RARE T0KEN

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The rare market is basically a hot potato being thrown around each person buying in, to sell for higher to the next person. Someone is going to get burned sooner or later. FOMO The superior man thinks of virtue; the small man thinks of comfort.

25-Aug-2020 20:58:46

ELITE STACK
Mar Member 2014

ELITE STACK

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With fish masks closing on 20m you know inflation is real. Biggest reason is the dupe but also with gp injections from th promos like crystal caps/fireworks and cash bags along with lockdown more people online making gp. I need my blue charms back.

26-Aug-2020 01:41:11

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