RuneScape Forum Archive | GE tax & Rares

Aug

2008

Theos

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Andromeda said :
Rares aren't traded through GE which means they're not taxed.

Also, this "delta" Jagex mentioned is still positive (more GP entering the game than leaving) and they're okay with that.

What impact would this have on OG rares do you guys think?

The impact, from my perspective is slowed growth.

Let's speculate for example, and say that with no intervention Santa hats could have risen to 5b by the end of 2023. With the new GE tax and other changes in the economy, that growth may be slowed/stunted. Perhaps, we'll see a new ceiling at 3.5b - 4b by the end of the year for example.

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13-Jan-2023 17:27:07

Jul

2008

Andromeda

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Theos said :
Andromeda said :
Rares aren't traded through GE which means they're not taxed.

Also, this "delta" Jagex mentioned is still positive (more GP entering the game than leaving) and they're okay with that.

What impact would this have on OG rares do you guys think?

The impact, from my perspective is slowed growth.

Let's speculate for example, and say that with no intervention Santa hats could have risen to 5b by the end of 2023. With the new GE tax and other changes in the economy, that growth may be slowed/stunted. Perhaps, we'll see a new ceiling at 3.5b - 4b by the end of the year for example. Well said. I agree on this. Perhaps no skyhigh ceilings, but still a modest one.

Messier31

14-Jan-2023 11:56:08

Mar

2022

Nangs

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Thinking beyond rares, I think we'll see a lot more scamming / luring outside the GE with the tax as a convenient excuse not to use it.

I think this update is a nice way to tackle these pay to win flipping discords that offer margins on all items for a $50/month or whatever they charge fee. I don't think flipping will die just like in OSRS, but it will be easier to lose money, and those that continue to do so will help remove gold from the game, and the overall liquidity/availability of items will drop as people slow down on flipping.

People may play a bit more like an ironman, previously players weren't 'punished' for instantly selling off their slayer task drops, if people are thinking long term about their skills / journey, they'll bank it incase they need those supplies / drops for another time and not take the 2% haircut just to rebuy it at a later date when they decide to do herblore, etc.

TLDR; If the tax is too high, players will start playing like ironmen and it will feel like there is very few players in the game when you can't buy specific weapons, amour or supplies easily when that would traditionally be flipped for a small margin and provide availability. This will negatively impact the rare market's growth but won't cause a crash.

14-Jan-2023 12:41:48

Destruction

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If you do get scammed/lured that is your fault. They can try whatever they can or like but taking gold out of your account will be your own doing.

The action or process of causing so much damage to something that it no longer exists or cannot be repaired.

14-Jan-2023 13:25:32

Apr

2019

Alsinda

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So let me get this straight, pretend no dupes happened to get the game so jacked up and a 2% tax is going to adjust the santa hat. Lolol. Great example for a fiction story.

How about actually work on the problems and not this dreamy solution of attacking one of the last remaining reasons people play - to make money.

XP is a JOKE, game play is all repetitive non sense. Economy make 0 sense. What a blast this game has become.

How about stop pretending the game is a living organism (it died a long time ago) and just make the electronic changes needed to be fun again. Instead of the slow burn hatred build up just go for the drastic change, you've got absolutely nothing to lose like you did in 07.

14-Jan-2023 17:13:57

RSGOTMEFATT

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Alsinda said :

XP is a JOKE, game play is all repetitive non sense. Economy make 0 sense. What a blast this game has become.

How about stop pretending the game is a living organism (it died a long time ago) and just make the electronic changes needed to be fun again. Instead of the slow burn hatred build up just go for the drastic change, you've got absolutely nothing to lose like you did in 07.
The damage is already done the next decade is going to be hard for RuneScape, as the average demographic aged 24-30 that has been supporting the game starts to move on. They are barely getting new players just new alts lmao. let's see if Carlyle Group decides to cash out, with rates moving higher it's going to be a difficult world for private equity. I honestly think they don't understand the game their largest holdings are in communication and healthcare. They bought the game Soley based on revenue which they are likely pressuring jagex management to increase each year (Increased MTX). Jagex has been sold about 4 times now, these are deeper systematic issues (greed), but I never thought it would destroy a game lmao.

Grand Exchange: Finished buying 1 x Christmas cracker

14-Jan-2023 21:44:33 - Last edited on 14-Jan-2023 22:04:22 by RSGOTMEFATT

Sep

2023

H Rassy

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Comparison of ge tax with unbalanced trade update is not that far sought.
Deflation is bad for a game like this,people want to have the feeling of getting richer and making progress overall. I dont think the ge tax is a good update for making this game more popular and i also doubt it will make the game more attractive for new players.

150k people online looks good at first sight but then you see 115k of them are on oldschool and rs2 is still ~30k like it always is at peak times these days.

22-Jan-2023 17:52:05 - Last edited on 22-Jan-2023 17:52:39 by H Rassy

Jun

2011

Warmpie

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TAXATION IS THEFT....
I cannot believe I even have to say this.... IT'S A VIDEO GAME........ I DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH TAXES IN A VIDEO GAME!!!!! DO BETTER ABOUT RWT AND BOTS..... NOT PUNISH YOUR PLAYER BASE... THIS IS FEELING VERY EOC TO ME...... YAY! It's 2010 all over again...

Warmest of Pies.

23-Jan-2023 19:54:46

Sep

2023

boidae

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all hoarders should suffer
especially pay to win items (tokens etc)

also ban meghan markle

jagex cant sell stuff irl and have ingame players make profit from them
jagex cant sell ingame profit

23-Jan-2023 22:14:36 - Last edited on 23-Jan-2023 22:17:20 by boidae

Apr

2019

Alsinda

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This is a joke, a lot of items are crashing except rares lol. The tax is stupid. Jagex has no control over their game. Dupes are constantly rumored/happening which fearmongers the community into economic chaos. The game does 0 to acknowledge it or debunk it which feeds the fire on the manipulation. It doesn't even matter if it is true or not anymore because we all know it will not get confirmed, denied or dealt with and the game gets more torn up every time.

Maybe, if they would pull their head out their roos and communicate with their player base like normal human beings the manipulation would not get out of hand. What cracks me up is they tolerate their mods going wild bronco on a 3rd party websites (reddit) but think it's BELOW them to do it on their own site.

partyhats over 6x-10x in a relatively really small amount of time, we all know something happened and just want you to fix it.

01-Feb-2023 18:28:35

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