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Lions RAWR
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This upcoming month of updates has a lot to unpack, so lets get right into it!

Legacy of Zammorak Finale
: I am looking forward to seeing how these storylines come to an close and what it will reveal about the next storyline. Having these episodic stories over the course of 6 months is very good and keeps things fresh.

Yak track
: It was expected. The length of time is once again at its normal time frame compared to the previous Yak tracks. I am not a fan of the yak coins being introduced. I understand that it allows players to get previous years rewards, but I don't think it should added.

Advent calendar
: Comes around all the time and it is expected. I don't hate it and find it to be one the better of the re accruing events to appear.

Presents from the Henge
: Once again we are going to have to " Gather" items to turn in for an chance at other items ( the Dye being in here is stupid). This is just like the Green Santa event last year.

Santas Grotto
: Another Stupid TH limited Event on top of everything else in the month.

Overall the month is filled with more limited events than actual content and that to me just sucks. It could of been an amazing Month with just the Quest and Yak track, but once again Jagex is milking the pockets of players with limited time items..
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30-Nov-2022 01:49:17 - Last edited on 02-Dec-2022 00:28:47 by Lions RAWR

ShallPrevail
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Terrible month, let alone a terrible past 6 months. The last good update was the Zamorak Boss and it wasn't even what the game needed, might as well call it a terrible year.


- Players should literally be prepared to watch their life's flash before their eyes with this new bladed dive tele 24/7 mechanic, not sure if this was a cruel joke to implement in the game but good luck everyone.


- Not much else to comment on other than hopefully the quest is good, but the game needs much more than this.

The game doesn't support an actual AMAZING storyline and I understand Jagex is trying to push for this but they're not even close to doing so and putting heavy work into this area will only degrade the player base further, it will be drastic if the story doesn't bold well with the players especially with the depleting updates players are now receiving.

The sad part is, they're probably only pushing for a good storyline now so they can release some books, a tv series or something.

Classic Jagex trying to make more $$$ at the hands of the players, futuristic sellout company.
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30-Nov-2022 11:13:13 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2022 11:41:22 by ShallPrevail

Roddy Piper
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Dive ability and infernal puzzle box are solid rewards. (for me the box doesn't exist now because I refuse to carry it) Zero interest in the 'story'. Glad it's over for sure.

The Christmas event is the very worst of what Runescape offers. Hand in the fragments trying to win a super rare prize. Tired of it. IF they don't want me to have something in this game then DON'T MAKE IT.

The dye is hardly worthy of mention, because that's how they decided they will receive money from the players. From my POV they are not even in a position to ASK for more money, let alone expect people to give it to them voluntarily.

There is no point in having partial cosmetic outfits. Got me some Green Santa Pants. WHeeee!

30-Nov-2022 12:53:51 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2022 13:56:16 by Roddy Piper

SlR
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I think it sounds pretty good tbh.

Having those santa costume pieces be separate is no different to how the current TH promo is handing out the lunar and solar cosmetic pieces. 'cash grab' seems to be the go-to response for everything these days, quit being a wet blanket and just enjoy the game.
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30-Nov-2022 16:28:42 - Last edited on 30-Nov-2022 16:33:32 by SlR

Lions RAWR
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ShallPrevail said :
The game doesn't support an actual AMAZING storyline and I understand Jagex is trying to push for this but they're not even close to doing so and putting heavy work into this area will only degrade the player base further, it will be drastic if the story doesn't bold well with the players especially with the depleting updates players are now receiving.


I am going to respectfully disagree with you on this part. The Elder God wars series was one of the best quest lines that Jagex has put out. It had a bit of everything in it and that is what sparked them to continue with the current storyline ( Legacy of Zammorak). I imagine that these shorter storylines ( episodic) will continue going forward and I believe players enjoy that ( I know I do)
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01-Dec-2022 02:32:46

Rikornak
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The only thing I am looking forward is the quest. Albeit I really do not expect something huge for that, but it's nice to have the quest series completed. And just purely by its rewards it sounds awesome.

Advent calendar got so insanely stale a couple of years ago, ever since the only things it spills out now are variations of xp (+some cosmetic if you open 15 on the correct day), the older ones were so much more interesting for that matter.

I must say I certainly do prefer those yak coins over yet another predatory loot box mechanic like they did in the last track. The TH system they used at the end of the last year actually would have been something I could have accepted, but otherwise I wish MTX was just solomon and track. But it sadly is more than obvious, that offering gambling makes more cash than that.

I mean - present paper collection basically was the christmas event for many years now - be it for a cracker construction or just for the presents like last year. I actually had expected them to release violet III this time. But fine... it's better than h'ween or easter, since you just can play your game instead of being forced to use poor skilling methods.

Lions RAWR said :
ShallPrevail said :
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I am going to respectfully disagree with you on this part. The Elder God wars series was one of the best quest lines that Jagex has put out. It had a bit of everything in it and that is what sparked them to continue with the current storyline ( Legacy of Zammorak). I imagine that these shorter storylines ( episodic) will continue going forward and I believe players enjoy that ( I know I do)


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01-Dec-2022 07:09:32 - Last edited on 01-Dec-2022 07:10:26 by Rikornak

ShallPrevail
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Lions RAWR said :
ShallPrevail said :
The game doesn't support an actual AMAZING storyline and I understand Jagex is trying to push for this but they're not even close to doing so and putting heavy work into this area will only degrade the player base further, it will be drastic if the story doesn't bold well with the players especially with the depleting updates players are now receiving.


I am going to respectfully disagree with you on this part. The Elder God wars series was one of the best quest lines that Jagex has put out. It had a bit of everything in it and that is what sparked them to continue with the current storyline ( Legacy of Zammorak). I imagine that these shorter storylines ( episodic) will continue going forward and I believe players enjoy that ( I know I do)


Although Jagex had spent a lot of resources and time on the quest line, I myself am living fact that it just isn't on par with any other AAA gaming industry, and I did not enjoy it as a RuneScape fan. The great thing that RuneScape had with its quests was that they were just generally fun with no attachments, there wasn't truly an in-depth storyline for people to have to like to generally enjoy it.

This now leads to players losing more actual good core content to enjoy and if they do not like these new more heavily money invested quests then they will most likely just leave the game.

- I'm not saying it wasn't a good story and quest presentation, I'm saying as a 20-year vet my experience and play through of the current game is enormously hindered by these recent quests that I don't care much for at all.

For RuneScape to do what they're trying to do, they would have had to invest ENOURMOUSLY into the game, reviving everything they have killed off *PVP and minigames + more* while also giving us these *new epic quest-lines*.



Instead, the games getting slower and worse updates now, and here we are.... Zero excitement
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01-Dec-2022 22:22:38 - Last edited on 01-Dec-2022 22:27:48 by ShallPrevail

Lions RAWR
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ShallPrevail said :
Lions RAWR said :
ShallPrevail said :
The game doesn't support an actual AMAZING storyline and I understand Jagex is trying to push for this but they're not even close to doing so and putting heavy work into this area will only degrade the player base further, it will be drastic if the story doesn't bold well with the players especially with the depleting updates players are now receiving.


I am going to respectfully disagree with you on this part. The Elder God wars series was one of the best quest lines that Jagex has put out. It had a bit of everything in it and that is what sparked them to continue with the current storyline ( Legacy of Zammorak). I imagine that these shorter storylines ( episodic) will continue going forward and I believe players enjoy that ( I know I do)


Although Jagex had spent a lot of resources and time on the quest line, I myself am living fact that it just isn't on par with any other AAA gaming industry, and I did not enjoy it as a RuneScape fan. The great thing that RuneScape had with its quests was that they were just generally fun with no attachments, there wasn't truly an in-depth storyline for people to have to like to generally enjoy it.

This now leads to players losing more actual good core content to enjoy and if they do not like these new more heavily money invested quests then they will most likely just leave the game.


I would argue that the spotlight on a specific story lead to more content that was catered to a vast majority of play styles. We saw bossing, skilling, questing and impact to the game world all within the time frame of that quest series. That has led to many updates each month ( more than in recent past).

I don't Expect Jagex to make an AAA Questline ( and not all AAA games are good at all) But I do appreciate that Jagex has tried a different approach to quests and overall storylines.
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02-Dec-2022 00:59:25

Lions RAWR
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ShallPrevail said :
- I'm not saying it wasn't a good story and quest presentation, I'm saying as a 20-year vet my experience and play through of the current game is enormously hindered by these recent quests that I don't care much for at all.

For RuneScape to do what they're trying to do, they would have had to invest ENOURMOUSLY into the game, reviving everything they have killed off *PVP and minigames + more* while also giving us these *new epic quest-lines*.


Runescape is a living game though and that includes making changes along the way. Sure I would love to see Minigames come back to life, but I am also not stuck on them being dead. The same can be said about PVP ( though I would like something to happen to bring it back). As a long time vet myself. I understand things are not the same as they used to be, But I have decided to move on an embrace the new direction.
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02-Dec-2022 01:12:10 - Last edited on 02-Dec-2022 01:13:10 by Lions RAWR

Dilbert2001
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Runescape has never been a AAA game. They never have AAA quality quests. However, RS3's quests and lore based content are far better than pretenders with no storyline at all.

The living fact is RS3 grew their revenue by 18% and then 20% the last 2 years, mainly because of their content with strong story arcs.

They are looking up to Bioware for story telling content. They aren't AAA. They don't feature Star Wars kind of stories but their IP are unique, original and going on and on and on longer than the Everady Bunny.

As for the quest in December, I think it will be fine but in general The Daughter of Chaos quest line is just too short to show anything exciting. I didn't expect a very exciting series 5 months ago when they revealed the roadmap anyway. I know all along the big update, especially on the stories front is their new skill next year. We should know that in a month or two.

The other December content is pretty much similar every year. It is just good to grab some free items, regardless it is Green Santa, Golden Partyhat or whatever new.

02-Dec-2022 02:00:45

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