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Deltaslug

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Most Mingames at this stage are dead and are not coming back. We have nostalgia. We have a few die hards for the games. We've spent years posting suggestions. But the simple truth ... reworks or rebrands or re-whatever to mingames isn't going to happen.

It's time to just make the rewards accessible via other means in game.

I'm not going to propose removing minigames at this stage since that is a larger dev effort unto itself.

Mod Hooli posted for Mod Mic on the September 23 Dev Q&A

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Mod Hooli

We need to gauge the value of this compared to everything we could do for the game and whether its something enough players feel strongly about. Something for us to pick up in the players surveys perhaps to get some data on the size of support here.

Alternatively we could look at redistributing the rewards and comp requirements to other more popular activities if this is what most players would rather see. We'd love to know what you think on both fronts! - Mod Mic

01-Oct-2022 16:27:39

Deltaslug

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Trouble Brewing

The good news there are just 3 rewards: Cosmetics, The Stuff, and Teleports to the activity.

We don't really need The Red/Blue Rum since there are other teleports to Mos.

- Make the cosmetics available in the Pirate clothing shop(s) in Mos Le Harmless for GP

- Make The Stuff something something you can buy for GP from the Cooking Guild (you can also get them from Pirate Implings)

The Great Orb Project

Just switch the currency from Guild Tokens to Runespan Esteem.

Then add the Runecrafting Gloves from FoG to the shop reward interface.

Fist of Guthix, Pest Control, and Barbarian Assault Weapons and Armor

Good lord these are so under leveled these days that these can't even be considered "rewards".

May as well just pick a mid tier boss (ie: Dag Kings) or combat mob or just add them to a shop somewhere and sell them for GP. Inflated cost? probably.

Fist of Guthix Rewards

As mentioned:

- make the RC gloves available at the Runespan/GOP shop

- make all armor and weapons available as drops or available in a store somewhere (we did that with the Coifs, Boots, and Gauntlets ages ago)

- Dragon Slayer Gloves make available from Slayer Reward Shops

- Herb and Fishing Gloves ... no decent suggestions. Wouldn't be stunned if Fishing Gloves came from Fish Flingers or random chance while catching fish.

01-Oct-2022 16:28:18

Deltaslug

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Minigame Music Tracks

All minigame music tracks should now unlock when you enter the general area of the minigames.

Tasks/Achievements that Require Miningames

Ardougne achievements has 3 achievements that require playing a game of Castle Wars from something "easy", "medium", and "hard". These need to be replaced with something else from the Ardy area. Fortunately, since 2009 .. we've had quite a few things added to Ardy.

Karamja requires winning in the TzHaar Fight Pit. This needs to be replaced with something else in the "hard" category around Karamja.

01-Oct-2022 16:28:27

Jack Flac
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Fuck no. Look, just because Jagex doesn't want to put in effort to build community in this game, Doesn't mean we should be stripping down community content to the point where there would be no reason ever to play it.

Look, they don't need to rebrand, or rework, or anything like that. They just need to make them more accessible to the community at large. Thats all they need. Lower amounts needed to start games, allow Ironmen to buy all minigame reward items. Why would ironmen play if theres no rewards for them. Add in some tradable consumable rewards to things like castle wars. I mean Pest Control has them, why not Castle Wars. And upgrade Pest Control with higher tiers of tradable rewards. Wheres our Torstol, out 99-120 herb packs?

It's inaccessibility to the community, and lack of rewards at large that is the problem. Work on getting us a global chat already Jagex. Upgrade the grouping system to something more usable. Things like this will help the rest of the game. Stop with pvm for a bit, and focus on the community. Leader of The Enemy ||
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01-Oct-2022 20:53:41

Jack Flac
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Oh, and one more thing. Open up games like Castle Wars and Pest Control to F2P. It wouldn't be that hard, Pest Control is on an isolated island, and Castle Wars you just need to barricade the exit. I'd love to play Castle Wars on F2P where combat isn't completely broken in scale. Leader of The Enemy ||
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01-Oct-2022 21:00:17

Draco Burnz
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Jack Flac said :
Oh, and one more thing. Open up games like Castle Wars and Pest Control to F2P. It wouldn't be that hard, Pest Control is on an isolated island, and Castle Wars you just need to barricade the exit. I'd love to play Castle Wars on F2P where combat isn't completely broken in scale.

Yet how would one get to CW on f2p if the exit is blocked considering the ring of dueling is members only?
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01-Oct-2022 22:27:08 - Last edited on 01-Oct-2022 22:28:40 by Draco Burnz

Vengeance of
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At this point, I feel like the best solution is to cull the most unpopular minigames and give the ones that people actually like some more room to breathe. The number of players interested in minigames (even ones with really good rewards like Barbarian Assault) is miniscule, and by having so many minigames for so few people, the result is like trying to spread a single knife's worth of butter across an entire loaf of bread; you just end up with every piece of bread not getting enough butter to be worth the bother.

If we were to cut the number of minigames down to eight ...:

- Castle Wars
- Soul Wars
- Deathmatch
- TzHaar Fight Pits
- Pest Control
- Stealing Creation
- Cabbage Facepunch
- Flash Powder Factory

...the result would be each of the surviving minigames getting a lot more time on Spotlight rotation (to say nothing of Deathmatch and Fight Pits actually getting spotlight representation). You could even strip Spotlight down to being 1 day per game so that people don't need to wait a month for the rotation to come up again (while having 8 means that the day of the week would cycle so that people who are limited in the times they can play would get a chance to try every minigame every few weeks)

Not to mention most of the minigames that would be cut could easily have rewards moved to those minigames; most Barbarian Assault and Fist of Guthix rewards could be moved to Stealing Creation, Conquest's rewards are already part of Pest Control, the minigame armour set piece from Fist of Guthix could be moved to Deathmatch, etc. To say nothing of moving rewards from Trouble Brewing and Great Orb Project to the Brimhaven Agility Course and RuneSpan reward shops respectively.

01-Oct-2022 23:24:04

Jack Flac
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Draco Burnz said :
Jack Flac said :
Oh, and one more thing. Open up games like Castle Wars and Pest Control to F2P. It wouldn't be that hard, Pest Control is on an isolated island, and Castle Wars you just need to barricade the exit. I'd love to play Castle Wars on F2P where combat isn't completely broken in scale.

Yet how would one get to CW on f2p if the exit is blocked considering the ring of dueling is members only? I mean on Old School they put in a physical on-map teleport to the arena when they did it...Plus the minigames tab om oldschool has teleports. Not sure why those things never got added to RS3. Leader of The Enemy ||
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02-Oct-2022 00:31:14

Jack Flac
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Vengeance of said :

snip... Removing is not the answer. It's jagex investing into things like a better group system, a global chat, and doing things like allowing IRonmen to purchase all rewards. Right now even if there are 10 people out there in game at there who all want to play Trouble Brewing online at the same time, they have no way of finding eachoter except sitting for hours at Trouble BRewing. See how this limits growth?

Make it easier to find people who want to play, make it easier to talk with people, so you don't have to just be standing right next to them to talk. If Jagex won't do something like this, peole will just keep walking away from the game. A MMO thrives on it's community. We have next to no real community in RS3. It can't all come down to the players to build it, Jagex needs to do things sometimes. Leader of The Enemy ||
The opposite of Justice is simply another Justice. What is Evil is subjective to each person.
YOU
are their evil

02-Oct-2022 03:46:02

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