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ShallPrevail
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The main problem is player population, there just aren't a lot of players that play RS3, and Jagex not wanting to invest more money to revitalize the game.



- Now we have to look at why we lost so many players, this is because of EOC and the lack of support towards fun, diverse community content.

RuneScape used to supply tons of variety content that always had players jumping into them, and this was the game that everybody loved, this was RuneScape.



- Numbers will forever always continue to drop until they support this kind of logic again, RS3 just doesn't bring that RuneScape vibe anymore and the longer they ignore it, the more players they currently have will leave, and the players that already left will be harder to bring back the nostalgia feeling that they once had for the game.

We have to be honest, RS3 is not even close to competing with any of the great games that are being released in todays world. Yes Jagex may bring in a few *MAYBE* but I wouldn't be surprised if they lose more players than they bring in.

They have to work with nostalgia and the community they used to have, and once again the more they delay and lie to the players, they incredibly hurt themselves as a company.


- If they are able to fully support RuneScape again, to be a diverse content RuneScape platform and with the amazing community we have, this would be the only way to be better than other games that are being released in todays world. The community would be the advertising machine Jagex needs and they would make the game pro active in every way it used to be for humanity.

But they need to invest almost double if not half of what they are spending right now, and it doesn't look like they are the type of company to care about massive growth in a humane way.



- To conclude, with the lack of players and looking at what the game currently offers, I think the main support should be with 1 or 2 PVP minigames.

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21-Jan-2023 19:22:41 - Last edited on 21-Jan-2023 19:31:57 by ShallPrevail

Dilbert2001
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Deltaslug said :
Really, it is time to just redistribute the rewards.

They already did on most of the stuff you mentioned already. For instance, we can get Trouble Brewing and FoG rewards on the Thaler shop for years actually.

Prehaps you can re-examine your list and see if what other sutff you want them to "redistribute"?

22-Jan-2023 03:44:51

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@Dilbert2001
I'm one of the ones that doesn't equate the concept of the Thaler shop as redistributing the rewards.

I'm still having to take part in minigames, especially when the item I'm after isn't even a minigame item ... or even relevant to a minigame.
Even then, to ... efficiently ... get the item ... I'd need to play the minigames that are on spotlight.
Sadly ... this circles right back to the whole "not all minigames are single player" and "not all minigames are active".
In addition, Thaler prices for stuff can be more annoying to get than actually playing the minigame (yes, it is faster to play pest control to get void knight equipment than it is to AFK camp other minigames)

We could go back and forth saying "Well X is part of the this minigame because the minigame does do Y for a [skill] "


I'm acutely aware that Jagex isn't going to just go thru and rip out minigames from the main game. That is a process they have shown that can take nearly as long as it takes to develop a new minigame.

But what I have been stating from the start (from my own opinion) is that the rewards for stuff should also be available in general shops and activities that are active to the player.
Since the devs won't remove most minigames, there is no harm in multiple shops selling stuff.

Slayer Reward Shops. You do Slayer. You get Slayer Reward Points. Dragon Slayer Gloves (Fog) and Slayer VIP Tickets (Cabbage Face Punch). These rewards make perfect sense to have available for Slayers.

Runecrafting Gloves. Merge the GOP Tokens with Esteem (now 1 currency). Add Runecrafting Gloves (FOG) to the shop(s). Runecrafting activities now have a Runecrafting reward.


Keep in mind that Metal boots used to be a slayer only drop. D-hide coifs and metal gauntlets used to only be available from Fist of Guthix. Those can all now be smithed/crafted.

22-Jan-2023 15:53:38

Dilbert2001
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Thaler shop was introduced mainly to let us play whatever minigames and still get rewards from a specific minigame otherwise. We can get thalers and therefore specific minigame rewards anytime because there is always a minigame on Spotlight.

I don't know why you want specific rewards like RC Gloves doing Runespan and such but not minigame spotlight.

If they put old minigame rewards on General Shop instead of Thaler Shop, there will be almost no reason to do old minigames except for achievements. That's not what Jagex want definitely. They don't remove content most of the time. They may replace them with something better rather, like Duel Arena being replaced by Het's Oasis and Mobilishing Armies turned into Warforge Digsite.

22-Jan-2023 19:22:40

Mel 624
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Coifs and gauntlets became a regular thing because it didn't really make sense for standard armour sets to not be completable through the regular crafting methods same as when they finally gave magic actual, functional standard armour instead of largely cosmetic lvl1 robes. Combining esteem and runecrafting tokens is more a matter of standardizing a single currency for the runecrafting guild, doing away with price gaps for the rewards available in both shops and the change can be beneficial to GoP in getting better reward options previously locked to AFK grinding runespan. I don't think skill rewards from minigames should just be sent off into other skill shops just for the sake of it. Especially if the affected minigames aren't getting anything to compensate for this like improved rewards and much needed updates. How to block a forum user

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23-Jan-2023 01:16:37

Dilbert2001
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Mel 624 said :
I don't think skill rewards from minigames should just be sent off into other skill shops just for the sake of it.

They shouldn't be, and that's why we have "General Stores" for different kinds of content. Thaler Shop is the "General Store" for minigames. May's Caravan is the "General Store" for Quest Point rewards. Treasure Trails Reward Shop featuring the Globetrotters goodies is the "General Store" for all our Treasure Trailing adventures.

24-Jan-2023 16:25:28

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Here is another blunt question:

Say Jagex actually made the rewards available in stores (ie: buy the FoG robes from Zaffs Shop or the champion's guild stores, npcs selling the cosmetic items), or they even just removed most of the minigames all together ...... Would you honestly stop playing Runescape?


I get if for players that lived and breathed wildy pvp and the duel arena. But would you legit end your membershipband leave jagex because you could never again do Heist, Fist of Guthix, Great Orb Project, Soul Wars, etc?

24-Jan-2023 18:44:24

Deltaslug

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Personally, i could live either way. My opinion on this matter is clear. But jagex could leave minigames as is and I'd still play the rest rs3 has to offer. They could revamp them and i might give them a chance.

24-Jan-2023 18:46:29

Dilbert2001
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Deltaslug said :
Here is another blunt question:

Say Jagex actually made the rewards available in stores (ie: buy the FoG robes from Zaffs Shop or the champion's guild stores, npcs selling the cosmetic items), or they even just removed most of the minigames all together ...... Would you honestly stop playing Runescape?


I get if for players that lived and breathed wildy pvp and the duel arena. But would you legit end your membershipband leave jagex because you could never again do Heist, Fist of Guthix, Great Orb Project, Soul Wars, etc?

I doubt anybody will leave RS3 when these minigames are just either nice to have or outdated and nobody cares. Why should they be removed and their rewards aren't removed? Remember, the minigames rewards exist only because of the minigames. Now in 2023, these old minigames rewards are outdated. Hardly anybody still needs them.

However, there are still plenty of players doing minigames for Thalers, so minigames still have plenty of reasons to stay, just not many reasons for them to be updated.

24-Jan-2023 19:16:17

ShallPrevail
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Nobody is doing minigames, I repeat nobody is doing minigames and if they are they just AFK it.


It is Jagex's fault, minigames are needed but Jagex does not invest in them because they don't want to invest. They want to make $$ off us not spend more money.
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24-Jan-2023 20:23:14 - Last edited on 24-Jan-2023 20:26:50 by ShallPrevail

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