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Dilbert2001
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Hunteresque said :
Dilbert2001 said :
@Hunteresque

Comments from other non-Jmod players are still not Jagex's words.

Regardless, Wiki also showd other "miniquests" as they are called so by other players like Sheep Shearer too. They are dated way back from years ago and take only minutes to do too. So, why is "Father and Son" so special all of a sudden????



IT IS IN RUNESCAPE ITSELF! How many times Dilbert? Please READ posts; Don't look at the first word and then start typing your reply.

'Father and Son' is so 'special' (as you put it) because amongst 'Sheep Shearer' was a number of other quests and that was back in 2001. This is irrelevant however.

I am using the lack of content within 'Father and Son' to show that it shouldn't even be classed as a miniquest which in turn, shows only 3 quests and 1 miniquest were released in the whole of 2019 which relates to the subject on which this forum thread is about "Lack of New Quests".


Father and Son is in the game. So are other so-called "miniquests" (by the wiki users) like the 3 minute Doric "quests". But Jagex didn't say explicitly they are miniquests, and they didn't advertise or mentioned them at all as major content. Don't tell us just because Father and Son is not long then it is bad but Sheep Shearer, Doric "miniquests" and such are irrelevant although they are short too.

04-Mar-2020 16:08:23

Hunteresque
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Dilbert2001 said :
Hunteresque said :
Dilbert2001 said :
@Hunteresque

Comments from other non-Jmod players are still not Jagex's words.

Regardless, Wiki also showd other "miniquests" as they are called so by other players like Sheep Shearer too. They are dated way back from years ago and take only minutes to do too. So, why is "Father and Son" so special all of a sudden????



IT IS IN RUNESCAPE ITSELF! How many times Dilbert? Please READ posts; Don't look at the first word and then start typing your reply.

'Father and Son' is so 'special' (as you put it) because amongst 'Sheep Shearer' was a number of other quests and that was back in 2001. This is irrelevant however.

I am using the lack of content within 'Father and Son' to show that it shouldn't even be classed as a miniquest which in turn, shows only 3 quests and 1 miniquest were released in the whole of 2019 which relates to the subject on which this forum thread is about "Lack of New Quests".


Father and Son is in the game. So are other so-called "miniquests" (by the wiki users) like the 3 minute Doric "quests". But Jagex didn't say explicitly they are miniquests, and they didn't advertise or mentioned them at all as major content. Don't tell us just because Father and Son is not long then it is bad but Sheep Shearer, Doric "miniquests" and such are irrelevant although they are short too.


It's not classed as a miniquest only by the Wiki users though is it Dilbert? It's under the Quest List in RuneScape and you would know this if you had followed my instructions.

I am not saying it was bad. It sets up a premise for the future.
Sigli being Irwinsson's father
, but you're not understanding or more likely, not choosing to understand my point.

We have had 3 quests in 2019 along with 2 miniquests. Out of the 2 miniquests, Father and Son was extremely short and didn't really provide us with...
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04-Mar-2020 16:14:26

Hunteresque
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anything. My argument is that if Jagex could only make 3 quests last year, then surely 'Father and Son' should have been more substantial in quality. They've put the 'miniquest' label on it just to try and bulk out the lack of quest content released for 2019. Hunteresque - The Picturesque Hunter
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04-Mar-2020 16:15:37

Dilbert2001
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Hunteresque said :
anything. My argument is that if Jagex could only make 3 quests last year, then surely 'Father and Son' should have been more substantial in quality. They've put the 'miniquest' label on it just to try and bulk out the lack of quest content released for 2019.


We are going to have at least 4 quests this year, not counting Father and Son or whatever miniquests Jagex never even intended to make them BBBIIIIGGG deals. Four quests, and potentially more if we count Elemental Workshop, this year are already more than 3 last year.

04-Mar-2020 16:22:53

Hunteresque
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Dilbert2001 said :
Hunteresque said :
anything. My argument is that if Jagex could only make 3 quests last year, then surely 'Father and Son' should have been more substantial in quality. They've put the 'miniquest' label on it just to try and bulk out the lack of quest content released for 2019.


We are going to have at least 4 quests this year, not counting Father and Son or whatever miniquests Jagex never even intended to make them BBBIIIIGGG deals. Four quests, and potentially more if we count Elemental Workshop, this year are already more than 3 last year.


Well they obviously did intend to make the miniquests Dilbert, or, they wouldn't be present in the game. Anyway...

Okay, I agree that it'll be great if we receive more quests in 2020 than in 2019, but 4 quests a year isn't where we want to be my friend. When I raised this complaint, (March 2018), the 6 quests in 2017 weren't enough (Because some of them were rushed as explained in the earlier pages of this thread). Despite this thread being present, we have had a major decline in quests. So much so, that I currently don't even trust Jagex to bring one out every 4 months. How long until they properly address the issue that was raised when we had 6 (2 rushed) quests a year back in 2018? I know you'll have an answer for this because you always do, but the supporters in this thread would see my point.
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04-Mar-2020 16:32:04

Dilbert2001
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@Hunteresque

A lot of hidden content like finding that young lad from the some Ardougne mansion (I don't remember his name now) are definitely in the game, but are not quests or miniquests even if they can be called so but aren't by the same users who edited the Wiki.

Note that it is
AT LEAST 4
, but probably more than 4 quests this year. Note that 4 quests a year in RS3 is already more than in some other games.

04-Mar-2020 16:38:19

Hunteresque
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Dilbert2001 said :
@Hunteresque

Note that it is
AT LEAST 4
, but probably more than 4 quests this year. Note that 4 quests a year in RS3 is already more than in some other games.


I believe you are referring to Philipe Carnillean? He is an extra reward scheme for collecting X amount of quest points, not a miniquest. Plus, he was released years ago, way before this 'Lack of New Quests' forum thread existed, which makes him kinda irrelevant to the point of this thread when we're talking about the here and now.

In regard to quest releases, I'll believe it when I see it. You have always been defending Jagex from the moment this thread was made right up until now, so I know why you are so optimistic.

The problem is, even if we get 5 quests this year, we're still in that same position that we were in back when this thread was created in 2018. More quests than in 2018 and 2019, but still at least 2 or 3 off the mark of where we want to be. Finally, quality is important, these potential 5 quests need to be of better quality than what we've been getting for the last 3 years.
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04-Mar-2020 16:45:42 - Last edited on 04-Mar-2020 16:54:58 by Hunteresque

Dilbert2001
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Hunteresque said :
Dilbert2001 said :
@Hunteresque

Note that it is
AT LEAST 4
, but probably more than 4 quests this year. Note that 4 quests a year in RS3 is already more than in some other games.


I believe you are referring to Philipe Carnillean? He is an extra reward scheme for collecting X amount of quest points, not a miniquest. Plus, he was released years ago, way before this 'Lack of New Quests' forum thread existed, which makes him kinda irrelevant to the point of this thread when we're talking about the here and now.

In regard to quest releases, I'll believe it when I see it. You have always been defending Jagex from the moment this thread was made right up until now, so I know why you are so optimistic.

The problem is, even if we get 5 quests this year, we're still in that same position that we were in back when this thread was created in 2018. More quests than in 2018 and 2019, but still at least 2 or 3 off the mark of where we want to be. Finally, quality is important, these potential 5 quests need to be of better quality than what we've been getting for the last 3 years.


So is Father and Son such "an extra reward scheme". If Jagex wanted to, they could have made a similar "miniquest" out of talking to the Queen Slime to get the Top Hat reward too. Why should one cares just because some users labelled some extra content a miniquest or not if it is the rewards that count anyway?

Again, we are getting at least 4 revealed quests in RS3 this year, and it is no doubt more than we had in 2019. While I will like to see more quests, I certainly understand RS3 is already doing far better than many MMORPG dying to natural selection with diminishing quests years by years. Four, five or six quests in 2020 in RS3 are far better than three in 2019 in RS3 and definitely much much better than ONE in some crappy loreless and adventureless MMO"rpg" games.

04-Mar-2020 17:01:42

Hunteresque
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@Dilbert2001

Yes I understand what you are saying in regard to Jagex could just label anything a 'miniquest' if they wanted to. I'm just explaining that Father and Son wasn't really worthy of being one and was just used to bulk-up the obvious lack of quest releases in 2019.

I will be a lot happier with 6 quests this year, don't get me wrong. I'm just hoping that we will get that many. More importantly, that it stays at a constant 6-9 quests each year as RuneScape evolves within the next few years.

I agree that it is far better to have more quests in 2020 than in 2019. The point I am trying to make is that it would be nice if there were more quests going forwards which I believe we both agree on.

I am glad that RuneScape does still exist and I am grateful for the fact that I can still play it. The wish and want for quests is still there but I am not expecting like 18 in a year. A constant schedule of 1 quest every 2 months (maybe with an extra one or two thrown in here and there) would be something I'd be content with.
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04-Mar-2020 17:12:22

Dilbert2001
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Hunteresque said :
@Dilbert2001

Yes I understand what you are saying in regard to Jagex could just label anything a 'miniquest' if they wanted to. I'm just explaining that Father and Son wasn't really worthy of being one and was just used to bulk-up the obvious lack of quest releases in 2019.


Again
, Jagex never even mentioned Father and Son anywhere and they definitely don't care about it. On the other hand, they definitely said clearly in Runefest 2019 about MORE QUESTS (at least 4, and they are aiming at 6) for RS3 in 2020.

RS3 is still an MMO
RPG
because it has not just quests (and more quests in 2020), but also lore and other lore-based content like the MQC. It is far far better than some RPG-pretenders with one or even no quests in their games.

04-Mar-2020 17:24:45

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