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Terminux

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Raphella said :
You're absolutely, right. The location of the portal is of critical importance!

Raphy stares intently into the hazy maelstrom of her crystal ball, and chants, "Mystic crystal please tell me, where will the Stormguard portal be?"

The crystal ball's shifting haze congeals into three words, "Temple of Ikov."

Raphy shakes the mystical ball in disappointment. "Not in the sky???? Why? Why? Why?"

The crystal ball offers no further response, as its message dissolves back into the mists from which it was formed.

"This crystal must be malfunctioning," thinks Raphy, "It never gives me answers that I like."

Lol. Nice one. My neighbors a jerk

13-Dec-2019 14:47:06

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Lions RAWR

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Dilbert2001 said :
Heinzchen said :
love this thread. I bet jagex mods are on floor laughing out loud, I am

Already revealed in yesterday's Weekly Live Stream, Stormguard Citadel is indeed an INVENTION based content. Logically Avansie Technologies are coming... and I'll be surprised if Avansie invention doesn't have anythng to dowith Aviation.

Invention based content means blueprints to create.

I have a feeling you are looking way to much into this and not thinking about something we already have: Citadels.

The citadel is also in the air with no way to get to it but by portal. We did not have to invent anything either

The real question is: How will we get from island to island once up there. Time to follow an trail of Treasure.
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14-Dec-2019 20:09:55 - Last edited on 14-Dec-2019 20:10:05 by Lions RAWR

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O Teragard

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Seriously though, learning how to fly would be epic.

Lions RAWR said :
The real question is: How will we get from island to island once up there.

Probably portal there too lol! But flying would still be epic Click here for ideas on exploring other worlds, specifically the human homeworld Teragard. This one's me baby

15-Dec-2019 01:25:06

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Dilbert2001

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Lions RAWR said :
Dilbert2001 said :
Heinzchen said :
love this thread. I bet jagex mods are on floor laughing out loud, I am

Already revealed in yesterday's Weekly Live Stream, Stormguard Citadel is indeed an INVENTION based content. Logically Avansie Technologies are coming... and I'll be surprised if Avansie invention doesn't have anythng to dowith Aviation.

Invention based content means blueprints to create.

I have a feeling you are looking way to much into this and not thinking about something we already have: Citadels.

The citadel is also in the air with no way to get to it but by portal. We did not have to invent anything either

The real question is: How will we get from island to island once up there.

We still need to fly in the Avainsie land logically, if we ever get there. I really don't see why birdmen make portal to travel when they can fly. Do you know how birds cross the ocean? They build a barge or portals, or they swim (bird style???) or flap their wings?

15-Dec-2019 01:42:46 - Last edited on 15-Dec-2019 01:44:00 by Dilbert2001

Hguoh

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Dilbert2001 said :
We still need to fly in the Avainsie land logically, if we ever get there. I really don't see why birdmen make portal to travel when they can fly. Do you know how birds cross the ocean? They build a barge or portals, or they swim (bird style???) or flap their wings?

1. Flying is physically intensive, and crippled Aviansie still need to get around.
2. Portals are usually instantaneous transportation, while ambulation takes time.

Any civilization will inevitably utilize methods to make transportation of goods and people easier with range of implementation decided by cost-benefit analysis (ex: walking is good enough for going to your neighbors, driving is good enough for going between somewhat close towns, and riding a plane is good for going between far towns).

It is entirely to be expected that the Aviansie would have some teleportation network for travel between major locations, especially since they live on islands hurtling around the world every which way (in other words, no set routes to hop/fly).

15-Dec-2019 02:16:23 - Last edited on 15-Dec-2019 02:25:09 by Hguoh

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Dilbert2001

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Hguoh said :
Dilbert2001 said :
We still need to fly in the Avainsie land logically, if we ever get there. I really don't see why birdmen make portal to travel when they can fly. Do you know how birds cross the ocean? They build a barge or portals, or they swim (bird style???) or flap their wings?

1. Flying is physically intensive, and crippled Aviansie still need to get around.
2. Portals are usually instantaneous transportation, while ambulation takes time.

Any civilization will inevitably utilize methods to make transportation of goods and people easier with range of implementation decided by cost-benefit analysis (ex: walking is good enough for going to your neighbors, driving is good enough for going between somewhat close towns, and riding a plane is good for going between far towns).

It is entirely to be expected that the Aviansie would have some teleportation network for travel between major locations, especially since they live on islands hurtling around the world every which way (in other words, no set routes to hop/fly).

The human/gnome/elf civilizations among the other smarter ones on Gielinor don't seem to have utilized portals much. I don't see Avansies make a lot of portals especially when they already have the advantages not to need to build barges or such to go across waterbodies or dig underground passes to circumvent mountains (which they supposedly don't have in Addinah anyway).

Sure, birds have some brains too. Perhaps they are going to have their own technologies and inventions to help them navigate, but I don't see them being wagons, barges, submarines and such... sounds more like ABOs (Avansie Flying Objects) to me.

15-Dec-2019 16:16:24 - Last edited on 15-Dec-2019 16:17:51 by Dilbert2001

Hguoh

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Dilbert2001 said :
The human/gnome/elf civilizations among the other smarter ones on Gielinor don't seem to have utilized portals much.

Lodestones, Spirit Trees, and Fairy Rings say hi.

Dilbert2001 said :
I don't see Avansies make a lot of portals especially when they already have the advantages not to need to build barges or such to go across waterbodies or dig underground passes to circumvent mountains (which they supposedly don't have in Addinah anyway).

Flight is all and good for them to go relatively short distances (flight takes a lot of energy) whilst largely unburdened (more weight means less flight time). They still need away to transport goods and themselves long distances.

The chaotic nature of their plane's geography notably makes portals all that more cost effective on Abbinah compared to Gielinor. More standard methods of travel could result in vastly different travel times when journeying as your destination and starting point constantly change position relative to each other in potentially unpredictable ways (it also renders most forms of navigation nonfunctional: non-magical maps don't work when the land masses change orientation and location on a daily basis; land marks don't work when their location relative to anywhere is in constant flux; stars can still tell you where the cardinal directions are though it's not much use when what is north or south isn't fixed).

Dilbert2001 said :
Sure, birds have some brains too. Perhaps they are going to have their own technologies and inventions to help them navigate, but I don't see them being wagons, barges, submarines and such... sounds more like ABOs (Avansie Flying Objects) to me.

See above for just some of the issues with non-instantaneous travel on a world like Abbinah. Flight's only benefit is its mundanity, making it useful for local travel and exploration.

17-Dec-2019 05:59:18

Hguoh

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And we are capable of both local travel (walking and climbing) and exploration without flight (hopping between islands as they come near to each other (it does take fewer divine charges to just ride an island going your way than for something to fly you the whole way, plus you can explore or skill on the island as you go), as was originally proposed for Abbinah).

And on a world like Gielinor, it is simply more effective to move goods long distances by more traditional methods until you either reach a dedicated portal/teleport up to the sky island or at least get close enough to have somebody or something that can fly ferry the goods up. Even then, flying goods up still has a weight limit, which, again, is a point in favor of portals/teleports (especially for a race that supposedly likes to work with metal ).

17-Dec-2019 06:09:05 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2019 06:26:03 by Hguoh

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Dilbert2001

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Hguoh, you know lodestone, fairyrings and such don't magically appear before the World Guardian and his fellow Gielinoreans discovered their locations first, right?

We still need the Exploration Ship Enterprise to boldly go where no one has ever gone before to discover the new places and civilizations first before Scotty can beam us down.

17-Dec-2019 16:13:14

Hguoh

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Dilbert2001 said :
We still need the Exploration Ship Enterprise to boldly go where no one has ever gone before to discover the new places and civilizations first before Scotty can beam us down.

Or we can just hop from island to island as they drift near each other, going along for the ride until we end up somewhere important (again, like how navigating Abbinah was already proposed to work).

I mean, that's likely how Aviansie traveled long distances prior to developing teleportation methods. The only benefit they have over us land-bound folks is the ability to jump to islands not immediately next to or colliding with your own (and even that becomes less effective or nullified when bearing cargo).

PS: You don't have to find a fairy rings first before teleporting to it in most cases (notable exceptions being those that need repaired). All you need is to find one, have the ability to use it, and put in the right code (be that by guessing or by someone telling you the right code.

Portals and teleport spells seem to work the same way, so we don't necessarily need to visit a place before getting to teleport there via those methods,

18-Dec-2019 00:57:24 - Last edited on 18-Dec-2019 01:04:52 by Hguoh

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