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== Quests in the Making V3 ==
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I updated the thread to reflect the release of Desperate Measures. What did everyone think of this quest? I quite enjoyed it. It obviously has some issues, but not the quest itself, rather its gameplay (occasional client crashes, slightly not smooth progress, etc.), and they'll probably be fixed soon. The story and intended gameplay (i.e. sans the issues) were excellent. It felt very full, there were lots of chat options and examine texts, the story was engaging, the reveals were great, etc. Overall, a sincerely great quest IMO.
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29-Jul-2020 02:01:01 - Last edited on 29-Jul-2020 02:06:30 by Fat N Wacky
Dilbert2001
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When Zaros said it, his relationship to Seren hasn't been revealed in the game lore at all, but we absolutely know they are siblings before Desperate Times.
There's another difference. When Zaros said it, Mah was still alive. Seren's line that you are quoting from Desperate Times is after Mah has died, which Seren sees as having been at the hands of Zaros. Children of Mah clearly establishes a boatload of tension between the "siblings" for their mother's death and for Seren's betrayal of the Mahjarrat all those millennia ago. They each feel more pain and anger with regard to the other than they have ever felt before. They're basically not even on speaking terms, which in turn leads to a certain amount of grief and/or loss.
Seren's apparent reluctance to name her brother is a reflection of that. It's not some intentionally vague bit of foreshadowing to some "father" of hers. She may still have a "father," Jagex may still plan on revealing that somehow. But nothing currently indicates it, including that line from Desperate Times.
Jagex' teases are intentionally clear and don't leave room for doubt. They're not vague statements that could innocently reference something already established, OR be a tease of some future unknown lore. No, the tease of future lore will be clear. Zaros clearly referred to a "sixth" Elder God. There's no question of that; There isn't a chance he was referring to something already established. No no, that's clearly a tease for something new. Seren's line from DT is not an equivalent of that. It is not a tease, it's an emotional reference to the brother Seren feels she has lost due to, from her view, his irredeemable and unjustifiable actions.
When Zaros said it, his relationship to Seren hasn't been revealed in the game lore at all, but we absolutely know they are siblings before Desperate Times.
There's another difference. When Zaros said it, Mah was still alive. Seren's line that you are quoting from Desperate Times is after Mah has died, which Seren sees as having been at the hands of Zaros. Children of Mah clearly establishes a boatload of tension between the "siblings" for their mother's death and for Seren's betrayal of the Mahjarrat all those millennia ago. They each feel more pain and anger with regard to the other than they have ever felt before. They're basically not even on speaking terms, which in turn leads to a certain amount of grief and/or loss.
Seren's apparent reluctance to name her brother is a reflection of that. It's not some intentionally vague bit of foreshadowing to some "father" of hers. She may still have a "father," Jagex may still plan on revealing that somehow. But nothing currently indicates it, including that line from Desperate Times.
Jagex' teases are intentionally clear and don't leave room for doubt. They're not vague statements that could innocently reference something already established, OR be a tease of some future unknown lore. No, the tease of future lore will be clear. Zaros clearly referred to a "sixth" Elder God. There's no question of that; There isn't a chance he was referring to something already established. No no, that's clearly a tease for something new. Seren's line from DT is not an equivalent of that. It is not a tease, it's an emotional reference to the brother Seren feels she has lost due to, from her view, his irredeemable and unjustifiable actions.
The best things in life are h
i
dden. You have to seek them out!
29-Jul-2020 02:03:45
ignoble one
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Xau-Tak the the time displaced abomination that is a fusion of Zaros and Kerapac.
Zaros, desperate to attain "elder godhood" takes everything he has (including Mah's Core) but needs "more".
Kerapac, desperate to break free of Jas' control once more strikes a deal with Zaros.
They attempt to transfer the power of The Needle to Zaros which would also free Kerapac (one way or another.
Things go sideways.
Zaros and Kerapac get sent back in time to the beginning of the current revision cycle and get merged into a singular being. Stuck in the Shadow realm. Their psyche is a fusion of the two.
This would explain why it hangs in the shadows slowly getting power. It would also explain why it does a warped interpretation of how to help the Dragonkin and free them from Jas by any means necessary.
That... is a wild theory. But I kinda love it. I assume you're suggesting both that Xau-Tak is the Sixth Elder God that isn't "of form," and that it is the combination of Zaros and Kerapac?
You know... IF Xau-Tak is the "Sixth Elder God," I have to think that there's some kind of significance, even if its not outright, to the fact that his name has precisely six letters, split into two words of three letters each, and all the other Elder Gods have three-letter names.
Your theory on Xau-Tak being both Kerapac and Zaros, and being the Sixth Elder God... I mean, it could explain the double Elder God name. Somehow. IDK. Hmm!!!
Xau-Tak the the time displaced abomination that is a fusion of Zaros and Kerapac.
Zaros, desperate to attain "elder godhood" takes everything he has (including Mah's Core) but needs "more".
Kerapac, desperate to break free of Jas' control once more strikes a deal with Zaros.
They attempt to transfer the power of The Needle to Zaros which would also free Kerapac (one way or another.
Things go sideways.
Zaros and Kerapac get sent back in time to the beginning of the current revision cycle and get merged into a singular being. Stuck in the Shadow realm. Their psyche is a fusion of the two.
This would explain why it hangs in the shadows slowly getting power. It would also explain why it does a warped interpretation of how to help the Dragonkin and free them from Jas by any means necessary.
That... is a wild theory. But I kinda love it. I assume you're suggesting both that Xau-Tak is the Sixth Elder God that isn't "of form," and that it is the combination of Zaros and Kerapac?
You know... IF Xau-Tak is the "Sixth Elder God," I have to think that there's some kind of significance, even if its not outright, to the fact that his name has precisely six letters, split into two words of three letters each, and all the other Elder Gods have three-letter names.
Your theory on Xau-Tak being both Kerapac and Zaros, and being the Sixth Elder God... I mean, it could explain the double Elder God name. Somehow. IDK. Hmm!!!
The best things in life are h
i
dden. You have to seek them out!
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