RuneScape Forum Archive | On the Polled Quests

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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@Saint Benjy

"Christmas greetings! Our most recent poll featured a new group boss, The Nightmare, and a host of new equipment as rewards. The poll ended on Wednesday December 11th, and we're pleased to say that all of the rewards passed.

There has been a lot of discussion about one item in particular, the Siren's tome, which would be the new best-in-slot magic offhand item. However, we've decided not to add the Siren's tome to the game.

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We want to reiterate that this decision was not taken lightly. There's no other way around it - the tome passed the poll, but we feel, that for the reasons listed, we're doing what is right for the game."

https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/the-nightmare-poll-results?oldschool=1#_ga=2.60986540.1635651740.1577142854-1665325742.1577142854

So all the Nightmare reward passed with > 75% votes but OSRS decided to ignore the Polling System the game had been using since day 1.

There were complaints on Reddit but not really a riot though.

25-Dec-2019 02:21:21

Sep

2005

Saint Benjy

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Dilbert2001 said :
@Saint Benjy
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/the-nightmare-poll-results?oldschool=1#_ga=2.60986540.1635651740.1577142854-1665325742.1577142854

So all the Nightmare reward passed with > 75% votes but OSRS decided to ignore the Polling System the game had been using since day 1.

There were complaints on Reddit but not really a riot though.
Interesting, and thanks for the link. After reading the message, it looks as if this will be the exception and not the rule though.

That said, I do expect that Jagex to add Dragon Slayer II to RS3, and probably some of the other quests as well. The real question is what is the timeframe and plan. It would look very bad for them to poll something and then scrap all of it completely.

25-Dec-2019 22:27:22 - Last edited on 25-Dec-2019 22:29:19 by Saint Benjy

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Saint Benjy said :
Dilbert2001 said :
@Saint Benjy
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/the-nightmare-poll-results?oldschool=1#_ga=2.60986540.1635651740.1577142854-1665325742.1577142854

So all the Nightmare reward passed with > 75% votes but OSRS decided to ignore the Polling System the game had been using since day 1.

There were complaints on Reddit but not really a riot though.
Interesting, and thanks for the link. After reading the message, it looks as if this will be the exception and not the rule though.

That said, I do expect that Jagex to add Dragon Slayer II to RS3, and probably some of the other quests as well. The real question is what is the timeframe and plan. It would look very bad for them to poll something and then scrap all of it completely.

LOL. It means even OSRS don't follow poll results now. What they said is this is not the sole exception. They can ignore passed poll results any time.

You can expect whatever but like your previous expectations with Zeah, we know it is not coming and noting about Zeah and such is even in the Annual Survey.... and did I say the RS3 team say they don't always pick the most popular votes.

BTW, they mentioned in the 2019 RS3 Annual Survey there would be an OSRS Annual Survey coming too but it is extremely unlikely the OSRS Annual Survey this year will come as promised since we are less than a week from 2020. Even OSRS is not taking polls and surveys seriously. Why should RS3?

26-Dec-2019 04:01:41 - Last edited on 26-Dec-2019 04:03:10 by Dilbert2001

Sep

2005

Saint Benjy

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Dilbert2001 said :
LOL. It means even OSRS don't follow poll results now. What they said is this is not the sole exception. They can ignore passed poll results any time.

You can expect whatever but like your previous expectations with Zeah, we know it is not coming and noting about Zeah and such is even in the Annual Survey.... and did I say the RS3 team say they don't always pick the most popular votes.

BTW, they mentioned in the 2019 RS3 Annual Survey there would be an OSRS Annual Survey coming too but it is extremely unlikely the OSRS Annual Survey this year will come as promised since we are less than a week from 2020. Even OSRS is not taking polls and surveys seriously. Why should RS3?
It does

not

mean that--with OSRS this is most likely one of a very few exceptions. Exceptions that prove the rule as the saying goes. Anything else would basically kill OSRS.

My only expectation with Zeah is that RS3 will get it in some form some time in the next 30 years--something you do not know (regardless of what you say, I have absolutely

ZERO

reason to think you know what you are talking about

unless you can post with a developer account

.

And that's a red herring on this thread

--unless you are talking about one of a few specific implementations of Dragon Slayer II, and that implementation doesn't even need that much of Zeah, just Shayzien.

But like always, you have a habit of entirely, 100%, missing the point of my threads

This thread is about brainstorming how to go about implementing these ideas, whenever Jagex chooses to do so.

REMEMBER: Just because you think of it, does not make it true. (Unless maybe if you are a developer)

PS: I know you always have an answer for everything. But so do I.

26-Dec-2019 06:43:30 - Last edited on 26-Dec-2019 06:48:19 by Saint Benjy

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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^^
All your posts on the first page really showed you care much about the percentage of the polls instead of the "brainstorming how to go about whatever ideas":

"To me, anything that half or more of the player-base wants is worth doing."

- Saint Benjy

Of course, ideas are always good and that's why polls and surveys are nice to have. However, it is utterly problematic when Jagex handcuff themselves to a certain threshold of polls and surveys such as the 75% rules in OSRS and the "anything that half or more of the player-base wants is worth doing" as you suggested.

That said, even if Zeah is polled and more than 50% of the players want it, it doesn't mean it is worth doing at all because there can be over 9000 ideas more worth doing. On the other hand, the more practical hand, Zeah is not even polled so there is no chance to even get 50% of people to "want" it. However, if there are some viable ideas in Zeah in the next 30 years, Jagex can still put it in other content like Anachronia even without a poll.

That said, there is no need and ill-advised to handcuff RS3 to a certain poll threshold at all.

26-Dec-2019 18:17:07 - Last edited on 26-Dec-2019 18:22:10 by Dilbert2001

Sep

2005

Saint Benjy

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Except that I am not suggesting Runescape (RS3) handcuff themselves to a poll threshold. That was just my personal opinion as a developer, that 1/3 is a good general threshold to put somewhere on the old @TODO list.

I don't expect them to make
all
of the quests on the first page, however the vast majority of them I feel would be welcomed by the community, and would be solid updates.

The thing is, that there are viable ideas everywhere (tons for Zeah even--see my quest series that I linked to) Also, very disappointed in RS3 farming guild because no seed vault

.

So, while we both agree that RS3 shouldn't handcuff themselves to a poll threshold, it's pretty bad PR to poll stuff and ignore it.

Did any of those quests interest you?

26-Dec-2019 23:09:37

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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Saint Benjy said :
Except that I am not suggesting Runescape (RS3) handcuff themselves to a poll threshold. That was just my personal opinion as a developer, that 1/3 is a good general threshold to put somewhere on the old @TODO list.

I don't expect them to make
all
of the quests on the first page, however the vast majority of them I feel would be welcomed by the community, and would be solid updates.

The thing is, that there are viable ideas everywhere (tons for Zeah even--see my quest series that I linked to) Also, very disappointed in RS3 farming guild because no seed vault

.

So, while we both agree that RS3 shouldn't handcuff themselves to a poll threshold, it's pretty bad PR to poll stuff and ignore it.

Did any of those quests interest you?

There is no old @TODO list for the RS3 team at all. They never said a word they werer going to make the quests you like, unfortunately to you.

Even if you go by the survey results, there are heaps of quests more welcomed by the community than Monkey Madness. So if Jagex is not hnadcuffig themselfves to the 50% threhold as you think appropriate, there are heaps and heaps of better quests than Monkey Madness 2. Good luck waiting for 30 years then.

If you like Monkey Madness 2 and/or you suggest RS3 to make Monkey Madness 2 just because you like it, that's fine. However, just artificially putting a 50% threshold and say Monkey Madness is over the 50% threshold therefore it is a good idea then it is just a drab reason.

27-Dec-2019 00:27:11

Sep

2005

Saint Benjy

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Dilbert2001 said :

There is no old @TODO list for the RS3 team at all. They never said a word they werer going to make the quests you like, unfortunately to you.

Even if you go by the survey results, there are heaps of quests more welcomed by the community than Monkey Madness. So if Jagex is not hnadcuffig themselfves to the 50% threhold as you think appropriate, there are heaps and heaps of better quests than Monkey Madness 2. Good luck waiting for 30 years then.

If you like Monkey Madness 2 and/or you suggest RS3 to make Monkey Madness 2 just because you like it, that's fine. However, just artificially putting a 50% threshold and say Monkey Madness is over the 50% threshold therefore it is a good idea then it is just a drab reason.

No, they never said Jagex they *would* make them.
THAT'S NOT THE ZARKING POINT!

I've been throwing out (what might seem to you as) arbitrary thresholds and numbers

because this is prediction

.

We don't know for sure!

I actually doubt that we will have to wait the full 30 years for Zeah, but I'd say that there is a very good chance that we will have 6th age Zeah by that time. (That's just a prediction though. In fact it's likely we'll have Zeah with in 10 years, don't blow your lid about it!)

Once again, please stay on topic. If you really don't think Jagex will make any of these quests, then just say that.

This thread is about
how
Jagex might go about making these quests if they choose to. While it is not guaranteed, there are pretty good odds that we'll see Dragon Slayer II and other quests from this list in the near future.

27-Dec-2019 01:37:48 - Last edited on 27-Dec-2019 01:39:24 by Saint Benjy

Jun

2006

Dilbert2001

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I am totally on topic as in your very first post you asked for what order and what's the best way to make those quests. I told you on Page 2, Post 8, it is totally up to Jagex because poll results are not gauranteed, not even in OSRS now.

If they really want to go by the best and most logical ways then more Zaros quests will come especially when we know Azzanadra and Dig Site quests are revealed.

Elf quests should come next as we know Seren is getting proactive to protect Gielinor from the Elder Gods and the Dragonkin. It is call for arm time for the Elves.

With GWD3 coming, obviously it is also a good time to make relevant quests like Back to God War.

If Jagex still have spare time, they can group up related quests like The White Knight and the return of the King.

At a later stage, the Rider of Apolycaplse is inevitable because we know the end of 6th Age is coming as Runescape Remastered comes closer. This should follow the Search for Death.

27-Dec-2019 02:14:27

Sep

2005

Saint Benjy

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You had gone off topic a little bit, but whatever, I don't want to argue about it.

Where did you hear about the end of the 6th age and Runescape remastered though? The last I heard about the end of the sixth age was when one of the Mods (Osborne?) mentioned it a few years ago. Back then they considered it possible "eventually", but I recall them saying there were no plans.

Also, I hope you don't mind if I mention the content of your last post in my reserves?

27-Dec-2019 17:36:41

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