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Tom Grey

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I do correct you and your ideas. Calling someone a troll is not a matter of different opinion for me, but it is about stating the fact. I feel sorry for you if you think out dialogues are all about you calling me out on my lies. I have already stated that you have only two arguments and I don’t agree with either of them. If you have anything else to add, feel free, otherwise there is a 120 familiar ideas thread to troll around in.

02-Mar-2019 23:59:30 - Last edited on 03-Mar-2019 00:00:03 by Tom Grey

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ChicNbiskits

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+ muspah?

03-Mar-2019 01:52:57

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Cute Brat

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UrekMazino said :
Here you go again kettle calling the pot black, you were the one who started off by calling me a troll in the attempt to put yourself in a better position. And now you say I'm the one trying to paint myself as the noble soul?
Tom Grey said :
Or do you just disagree with everything I say on every post to troll?
I have indeed lost interest in actually debating with you, tried to be patient but all you did was name calling, at least the other non supporters were more civil about it. May not be able to come to a resolution with them but at least there was a proper dialogue.

The purpose of my comment wasn't to debate on the topic but rather call you because you were either intentionally using poor wording to mislead or straight up lying.

Why does "6 familiars" and "6 types of familiars" matter? Well of course it does, when you compare the number is familiars in game and the number of types of familiars, it's a very different number.

They are like a hundred different familiars in game but they can be helped into a dozen or so types of familiars. So when you say 6 (out of over a hundred) familiars Vs 6 (out of a dozen or so types of) familiars, it paints a very different picture.

And what do mean I change the meaning of your words, if I paraphrased it wrongly, why not correct me? Instead of getting so agitated and devolve the conversation into name calling and going around in circles.

If we use 6 or 6 types it doesnt matter, I dont think having to do another 21 levels is worth the probably 5 or 6 new familiars we might get. Princess of World 98 =p~

03-Mar-2019 03:20:29

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UrekMazino

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Tom Grey said :
I do correct you and your ideas.
No, your comments essential boil down to: your idea sucks, there's nothing new, not worth my time training for 120.

Just look back at your first comment on my thread, I've already shown you why your "corrections" were wrong.
Tom Grey said :
Calling someone a troll is not a matter of different opinion for me, but it is about stating the fact. I feel sorry for you
More irony, you right here, are trying to paint yourself as the noble soul and try to diminish anyone who has a differing opinion as a troll. And then you try to call me out on doing the very thing you're doing.

Tom Grey said :
If you have anything else to add, feel free, otherwise there is a 120 familiar ideas thread to troll around in.
Not anymore, since we can't even agree on facts, but don't get mad at me when I call you out on your lies.
Cute Brat said :
If we use 6 or 6 types it doesnt matter, I dont think having to do another 21 levels is worth the probably 5 or 6 new familiars we might get.
Can you maybe tell me, on my thread, why the other 100+ familiar ideas somehow doesn't count as new familiars in your eyes? I get that some of them are just stronger versions, but there are plenty more. As I've shown, in my response to Tom's 1st comment on my thread. °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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120 Summoning Familiar ideas .

03-Mar-2019 04:30:40

Tom Grey

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As I said before, if you are not going to read what I write correctly, it’s best not to reply. There are 56 pages worth of material if you are still not satisfied that 120 summoning should not happen. I already stated your hypocrisy on your thread, I never said I am a noble soul. 120 summoning familiars idea you have is not new content because we get 5% boost on the currently available types of summons without adding anything new.

New content for summoning would equate to new method of training, new unseen rewards, new ways of utilising the skill to your advantage other than summons. This has been mentioned on your thread and on this thread countless times, problem is that one needs to actually read what others say.

03-Mar-2019 12:25:50

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Nibbles Z

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I also don't see the point in 120 Summoning at this point. 120 Slayer did nothing but make the skill have some really annoying mobs and very few additions that I found fun so it lessened my desire to see more expansions come into the game.

My main gripe is that Summoning is a skill only really trained on BXPW's, events and other methods to avoid actually training summoning, that is to say, it's clearly not a skill many consider fun either.
At least half of the familiars are worthless to all levels, again at least half if not more aren't worth the costs, and recently with the Mining and Smithing rework, some of them aren't representative of the correct levels they represent.

So all in all, I'd rather see a full rework on the skill, make it more fun and engaging, allow it to be trained in combat as well as creation and then maybe if that rework decides it's warranted; go for 120 sure. But in it's current state, please no.

03-Mar-2019 14:20:38

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UrekMazino

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Here you go again:

1) You never bothered to read through my ideas before dismissing them, but at least I explained to you why you were wrong. You didn't bother to.
2) I never said I was the noble soul either, but you called me so anyways.
3) Read my reply to your first comment in my thread again, I've shown you plenty of new ideas.

Here's the link if you don't remember
UrekMazino said :

You never replied to that comment, no wonder you still think no new ideas have been presented. This is literally you:

Quite ironic of you to call me out on the very things you're doing.

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I've repeated myself many times. An entire skill expansion document would be too much for me to handle as I don't have that much free time, so I've dedicated my thread to a section of it instead. I would wish for someone else to take over such a responsibility and create another thread for it so we may discuss on it properly. Plus, my thread does not have nearly enough reserved posts to cover it all, apparently 10 posts is just barely enough for familiar ideas alone.

So yes, I do acknowledge that the summoning skill expansion requires more than just familiar ideas, many times already in fact. So can you please acknowledge that I've acknowledged that and explained why I'm not addressing it in my thread, and then we can move on? °l||l° Modest Skillers T7 Citadel | Skilling clan recruiting players. °l||l°
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120 Summoning Familiar ideas .

03-Mar-2019 14:24:08

Tom Grey

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Nibbles Z said :
I also don't see the point in 120 Summoning at this point. 120 Slayer did nothing but make the skill have some really annoying mobs and very few additions that I found fun so it lessened my desire to see more expansions come into the game.

My main gripe is that Summoning is a skill only really trained on BXPW's, events and other methods to avoid actually training summoning, that is to say, it's clearly not a skill many consider fun either.
At least half of the familiars are worthless to all levels, again at least half if not more aren't worth the costs, and recently with the Mining and Smithing rework, some of them aren't representative of the correct levels they represent.

So all in all, I'd rather see a full rework on the skill, make it more fun and engaging, allow it to be trained in combat as well as creation and then maybe if that rework decides it's warranted; go for 120 sure. But in it's current state, please no. Agreed.

03-Mar-2019 18:45:49

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Tenebri

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Tom Grey said :
Nibbles Z said :
I also don't see the point in 120 Summoning at this point. 120 Slayer did nothing but make the skill have some really annoying mobs and very few additions that I found fun so it lessened my desire to see more expansions come into the game.

My main gripe is that Summoning is a skill only really trained on BXPW's, events and other methods to avoid actually training summoning, that is to say, it's clearly not a skill many consider fun either.
At least half of the familiars are worthless to all levels, again at least half if not more aren't worth the costs, and recently with the Mining and Smithing rework, some of them aren't representative of the correct levels they represent.

So all in all, I'd rather see a full rework on the skill, make it more fun and engaging, allow it to be trained in combat as well as creation and then maybe if that rework decides it's warranted; go for 120 sure. But in it's current state, please no. Agreed.

going by what another skill has done is a bit silly imo. they are separate on what can be achieved
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03-Mar-2019 19:26:26

Tom Grey

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Tenebri said :
Tom Grey said :
Nibbles Z said :
I also don't see the point in 120 Summoning at this point. 120 Slayer did nothing but make the skill have some really annoying mobs and very few additions that I found fun so it lessened my desire to see more expansions come into the game.

My main gripe is that Summoning is a skill only really trained on BXPW's, events and other methods to avoid actually training summoning, that is to say, it's clearly not a skill many consider fun either.
At least half of the familiars are worthless to all levels, again at least half if not more aren't worth the costs, and recently with the Mining and Smithing rework, some of them aren't representative of the correct levels they represent.

So all in all, I'd rather see a full rework on the skill, make it more fun and engaging, allow it to be trained in combat as well as creation and then maybe if that rework decides it's warranted; go for 120 sure. But in it's current state, please no. Agreed.

going by what another skill has done is a bit silly imo. they are separate on what can be achieved Using a precedent is silly? Slayer is one of the most beloved skills in rs. If they can’t get it right, it is reasonable to doubt that they won’t get summoning right as well.

03-Mar-2019 20:19:59

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