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Immortalized
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Webmaster453 said :
Immortalized said :
it is pointless to include their pronouns in the journal. they could simply just refer to the person with the correct pronoun when addressing them. they already do this for aster. so maybe political is not the right way to caricaturize what this truly is, but it is certainly a push for something that is really not necessary in any way and reflects some controversial trends in the real world (political to some). if you agree with it that's fine, no one is bashing you for it, but acting oblivious and pretending it's not something that is controversial is just bad faith posting. it is clear the stance of the person who made the update and I am sure they are not surprised to hear it has alienated some people and bothered them to see something like that promoted in the game when it really has no purpose and has never existed for 22 years. You're the very first person to say it's controversial instead of political. We're not mind readers that can interpret poor writing. It shouldn't be any more controversial than Charos being black.

Why is this controversial while the makeover mage consistently changing genders as an idle animation isn't? They've been in the game for 22 years. Millions of people consider preferred pronouns as political, primarily with left wing movement. Unless you are going to tell me wherever you live this has always existed as far as you can remember and no conservatism group has ever been at odds with it. Buy Zemomarks / Chromatic Partyhats safely here

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25-Mar-2023 03:27:49

Webmaster453
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Immortalized said :
You can just google "pronouns political" if you need help with that. It's not really my duty to explain to you why millions of people think it is political. Sorry Translation: You don't have the brain power to explain you're incorrect emotional mental gymnastics.

25-Mar-2023 03:43:04 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2023 03:45:40 by Webmaster453

Immortalized
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I've never even made the claim that it is political, just that millions of people consider it so. If anything you are demonstrating you are not emotionally mature enough for this kind of discussion. And discussing politics is against the forum rules so I won't engage in your bait. If you are truly acting in good faith, you can Google it and see for a fact that millions of people think it is a political topic. Whether or not you agree with that is completely irrelevant, and lashing out at people emotionally to provide an explanation is quite frankly inappropriate. Buy Zemomarks / Chromatic Partyhats safely here

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25-Mar-2023 03:45:51

Webmaster453
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Immortalized said :
I've never even made the claim that it is political, just that millions of people consider it so. If anything you are demonstrating you are not emotionally mature enough for this kind of discussion. And discussing politics is against the forum rules so I won't engage in your bait. If you are truly acting in good faith, you can Google it and see for a fact that millions of people think it is a political topic. Whether or not you agree with that is completely irrelevant, and lashing out at people emotionally to provide an explanation is quite frankly inappropriate. So you agreed with me that it isn't political? You didn't need to write a pointless passive aggressive paragraph.

We can discuss if it should be controversial. Why isn't the Makeover Mage controversial?

25-Mar-2023 03:50:15

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I have never said it is not political. I have said millions of people consider it so. Pretending it's simply not and acting like millions of people do not consider it political is acting in bad faith, unless you truly are oblivious and did not know better. If the latter is true, then consider this something to explore and search, it takes only a minute to find dozens of articles about the politics of it. Nothing I have written is passive aggressive in my opinion, but it's unquestionable that your posts are blatantly aggressive. Take a chill pill.

The makeover mage doesn't have pronouns specified anywhere... I'm not sure the relation here to the discussion. Or why you expect me to answer it. Buy Zemomarks / Chromatic Partyhats safely here

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25-Mar-2023 03:56:22

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Immortalized said :
I have never said it is not political. I have said millions of people consider it so. Pretending it's simply not and acting like millions of people do not consider it political is acting in bad faith, unless you truly are oblivious and did not know better. If the latter is true, then consider this something to explore and search, it takes only a minute to find dozens of articles about the politics of it. Nothing I have written is passive aggressive in my opinion, but it's unquestionable that your posts are blatantly aggressive. Take a chill pill.

The makeover mage doesn't have pronouns specified anywhere... I'm not sure the relation here to the discussion. Or why you expect me to answer it. That doesn't answer the question. It's binary(pun intended) whether or not you consider it political. It's not a hard question to answer and if you were actually being good faith you wouldn't dance around it.

Yes, the makeover mage is pretty much gender fluid switching back and forth between genders. They might prefer to be referred to as the gender they are at the time of talking or they/them all the time.

How is that so much different that you can't put 2 and 2 together?

25-Mar-2023 04:04:10 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2023 04:07:14 by Webmaster453

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I don't owe you an answer. I never said it was political. I said millions of people consider it political, hence their reaction as seen in this thread. I, like many, realize this fact and can see where people are coming from. You seem to miss this and dance around with irrelevant tangents. If you care, ask someone who claimed it was political. Maybe they can enlighten you, but you certainly do not give off the vibe of someone acting in good faith and ready to listen.

The makeover mage uses magic to transform into another physical sex. We are talking about NPCs' pronouns being provided in a book. I do no see the relation once again. Buy Zemomarks / Chromatic Partyhats safely here

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25-Mar-2023 04:13:33

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JOSH OF OHIO said :
I just wish that they would let us play the game with out having to worry about all the political BS of our modern world.

im with ya there.

games should be games. not "omg i need to add X caz of whats happening in real life". we play gets to ignore real life for a few hrs!! lol Logic, who needs it...

25-Mar-2023 04:14:57 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2023 04:15:36 by Demonicsfire

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